So phots are all fake....ok

What about the rocks we took from the moon?

Or the lunar laser ranging device we left

Flat earthers don’t think there are other planets

They think its lights

Like light bulbs...

Their proff is observation I think, but if you use a telescope to see let’s say mars or the moon you can see it has a curve

However

They still say it’s lights

Meant to fool you

I don’t think they understand why we use mathematics for things we can’t directly observe. I talked to paradox and she said if we can’t observe it then it isn’t real...something along that line.
Which I think is absurd because we have predicted many things using mathematics, in which later on we have experimented and the equations have come out to be true.

Yes also they do experiments where the thing their looking at is higher then what their standing on, and they see it as being flat.

As humans we are developed to see patterns. That’s why we see faces on cars or houses, etc.
so when things seem to have patters in them we assume that those things are related.
When they might not actually be.
The flat earthers see that the government has lied before and they have gone down this rabbit hole where they are seeing these false patterns and connecting these dots that aren’t there.
And it’s easy to believe in a conspiracy rather then the truth, because a conspiracy is a set of answers that tend to fill in the blanks. Where as in science we don’t know everything so we aren’t going to say, that’s why it’s hard to argue science with a conspiracist. Because they think they have firgured out what fits on the blank space

Not to mention your lvl of knowledge on a topic really impacts your ability to be targeted by a conspiracy.
As a child (or at least this was me) I used to think poverty was dumb and there was a clear easy solution, get rid of money. I didn’t have any knowledge on how the economy works.
So when you don’t have high lvl of understanding in mathematics and science, you think you know everything. The quote I think goes like this “A smart person thinks their dumb, while a ignorant person thinks they know everything”. When I was a freshman I bragged that I knew physics and was the best in math to my friends, yet I had never taken physics. When I then decided to sit down and pick up a notebook to learn physics, I ended up crying and at that moment I realized just how complicated the topic was.
When I was talking to paradox yesterday she said she tried to debunk the flat earth argument, but she couldn’t. It could be that she didn’t have the right material/knowledge to explain to the other side why they were wrong. Or it could be that the other side didn’t have the same understanding in math or science as her and though of whatever she said to be absurd.

And instead presented their “evidence” as a series of fill in the blank answers. Rather then using data.
If you have ever read a physics paper you will understand what I mean by data..not some article online. It is heavily math based and uses complicated scientific terms, that the average joe isn’t going to understand. That’s what articles are for, to simplify those papers so the average person can understand them. But they might translate the paper wrong or leave out materials because it will be too complicated for a normal civilian to understand.
Everyone falls into this trap, both sides do.

Here a quote from a flat earth page “The simplest is by relying on ones own senses to discern the true nature of the world around us. The world looks flat, the bottoms of clouds are flat”
They rely on their senses. But your sense can be wrong. It’s simple psychology. That’s how magic tricks are performed by tricking your senses, that’s how placebo effects happen by tricking your senses.
However math defeats that, it takes your sense into account BUT it uncovers what’s really happening.
An example would be this.
Let’s say I look at 2 buildings which look identical to me. Building 1 is far away and building 2 is somewhat close to me. Building 2 is taller, but idk know that. Now due to perspective the 2 buildings are going to look the same size. However when you apply simple trig and physics you will find that the 2nd building is taller.

Yea

That’s the one side think their better then the other

Well I think I’m done with my rant, don’t wanna write an essay 😂.
If any flat earther would like to debate, I’m down.

https://wiki.tfes.org/Flat_Earth_-_Frequently_Asked_Questions#What_evidence_do_you_have.3F

But is that not your argument tho?

Trust your senses and sense only

Exactly

You said what we observe, that’s not what the math says

Okay Logged give me 1 experiment

I’ll go take a look at it

The what

On google?

Give me a link

Cause I can’t find anything

I see a curve on the photo my man, it’s not going to be a curve that’s like a straight freaking 360 turn.
The curve is little, not enough for you to be like “oh yea it’s obvious”. Since the planet is so huge

The video I meant

Not to mention, you need to be 35k feet above and have a 60 degrees point of view to see the curve.

...yea ok, if your saying I didn’t I did

Just because I didn’t say “oh yea it’s flat” doesn’t mean I didn’t watch it

That’s still a tiny amount tho

@Logrian in the video my man zooms so far in to the curve, and he says oh yea see it’s flat. And it’s going to look straight DUH. It’s what you call a tangent. If you zoom far enough to a circle the line is going to look straight.

If that makes sense

250 miles?

Does he say it was 900 miles? I didn’t remember that being said on video

Lemme rewatch it

Let me check the actual amount of curvature gimme a sec

Duh it’s 7.2 inches per curve

Can’t believe I did trig for that 😂 when I could have google it

Per mile

Also it would be around 500 miles, but your not taking the height of elevation into account. Due to just how large the earth is, we are just ants. So when you look out at it it’s going to look flat.
However the higher you go, and the farther up you get away from earth the more of the shape you will see.
I’m pretty sure you have already heard this, but it’s like an ant on a basketball. From the ants point of view, the ball is going to look flat. And that’s true.
Again it goes back to tangent lines. When we zoom into a curve, we can draw a tangent line to show a slope of the circle. (That’s I think either pre calculus or algebra 2)
So basically we are not far enough out there, and the earth is so big that 500 ft of curve isn’t going to be large compared to the size of the earth , but the number will seem large to us.
Because when we think of 500 ft we assume either something really tall or something really far away.
I mean the earth is 20897740 ft. 500 really isn’t a huge number.
If we do (20897740-500) /20897740 we see that it’s not even 1% (it’s close but it’s absolute negebile) of earths size. @Logrian

Sun yea that’s true, like I said before we are humans so we seek for patterns

I wonder if any of the flat earthers have taken a psychology class, or what they think about psychology.

I trust in math

And I just used math to prove logged video wrong

Is it because you don’t understand it?

Leave math out of it?
It is the foundation of society.

Yea it’s an ego boost

Love the personal attacks

Alright Mathius give me evidence of flat earth, I will try to debunk it.

@Mathieus the Walking Witness give me evidence and I will try to debunk it

Uh nope

@Mathieus the Walking Witness I’m asking for evidence and you are just hiding behind insults

Give me something

Alright then, you can think I’m dumb that’s fine.
But give me something.

But you haven’t given me anything

Well you think I’m dumb

So let’s see if I’m

Give me something

I will TRY to debunk it, and if u think I’m wrong then you can tell me what

Logged gave me something

And I argued back

You haven’t given me anything

We were having an actual discussion and this guy walks in just throwing insults...what the hell

Omg

Dude if your gonna resort to just acting like a child, then just leave. Or give me something.

All you have done is said your wrong and dumb, and used emojis.

Logged did u not give me something, and i argued back as to why it was wrong. Now you can tell me why it is that I’m wrong.

I didn’t resort to calling you names.

It was only after this buddy of yours dame that u became aggressive as well

So @Logrian what did I do wrong in my math? Why am I wrong?

...oh your right it’s a smaller number

It’s around 200

I said around

Which means the percentage would drop even lower

Logged, do you believe in atoms?

Logged, do you think atoms exist?

Alright I will.

Gimme link

@Logrian can you give me link

Oh your talking about quantum mechanics and when we observe it.
That had to do with Probability.

Okay we still don’t understand quantum mechanics, but here’s how I learned it it’s an analogy.

@Logrian

So here’s how quantum probability works.
Imagine your in the real world, and not the quantum world.
If there is a probability of something happening, there is a 50/50 chance (or 20/60 etc).
It is only when you look at the end result that it becomes one.
That’s the same thing with quantum mechanics, when you look at it the quantum state changes.
Also you said kids arguing with people that have researched for decades but scientist have researched for centuries.

@Logrian

However this goes into like heavy physics, and isn’t going to make sense(not even the top scientist get it).

Oh no lol

That’s not it

No no do you know about string theory?

Also photos and electrons behave this way, protons and neutrons don’t

Quarks do as well

@Mathieus the Walking Witness well you trusted someone to be a flat earther as well.

We have a photo of a quantum entangled photons if that’s what your asking as of proff
@Logrian

Matheus did you use math?

We being an organization, I don’t I don’t remember exactly which organization but we got a photo of a quantum entangled full-time and it was all over the news like a couple of months ago and I did some and I read the scientific papers in the math checks out