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I honestly cannot wait for November. Trump allocated a large part of his campaign pandering towards Black and Hispanic communities. We'll see if that actually pays off, but going off available polls, it isn't looking too hot.

But videos like that always make me laugh, especially those characters on street corners demanding stuff like reparations. Its like a scene from GTA V.

This Henry guy dm’d me asking if I would accept him being gay

Funny character, they always want to be accepted. Simple tolerance is not enough.

But it can hurt others external to yourself. The issue here is that you have a highly individualistic worldview, and think that what I do in private doesn’t change the world around me. This isn’t true. What you do in private, you will reflect in public, no matter how hard you try to hide it.

Secondly, if homosexuality is rampant within a society, the decrease of the vitality of that society will naturally come. Fertility will decrease since you have a mass group of people eliminating themselves from the market and instead engage in homosexual relationships. I don’t want my collective being weakened in this manner.

Also, I don’t think you’re just “born with it” as you describe. I think sexuality is dependant on a wide array of factors, some of which we can impact to reduce the amount of sexual deviance within society. @BabyHenry

There’s also STDs, physical injuries during same sex intercourses, but you know about those already.

You perpetuate harm, if you like it or not.

It’s not a minimal effect when you have all major corporations, institutions, and high influence individuals forcing me to see your shit flag everywhere I look during June.

When it comes to the demographics of your kind, it’s ranges from 4.5 to 10%, but all surveys agree that there is a steady growth of LGBT. Also, don’t try to justify it by saying this is because they are accepted in society, even if that is the case, you’re then conceding that people questioning their sexuality have a higher likelihood of actually giving it.

Also, indeed, a large reason of a reduction of the populace would be a culture of not wanting to have kids, but LGBT culture also contributes to this. The type of “YOLO, why have kids” mentality is perpetuated by your community, so it’s not hard to see how young women would follow such a lifestyle, even though they themselves might not be homosexual. This is backed by polls as women are more likely to actually be accepting of homosexuality.

@BabyHenry you also have banks like Goldman Sachs instilling minority quotas, saying if you don’t have a homo or a racial minority in your boardroom you can’t take your company public.

So we see people like you become a political force, and implementing policy harming my interest.

But hey, you shouldn’t worry. The West is becoming increasingly gay due to all the institutional power you hold.

Funny how you go so far to seek approval including these circles of the internet.

It’s understandable, since people like you are extremely social creatures, more than the average.

You stating the conversion rates as some sort of gotcha is fallacious, there’s a much bigger pool of straight people than gay, and a lot of people who identified as LGBT in these polls as you acknowledge don’t finalise it by having intercourse. If you aren’t too far gone, I would want to reform you into a heterosexual person, but some people are obviously too far gone.

Also, a single anecdotal example doesn’t really prove much to me, a disabled person can be a star athlete, but generally speaking, it’s unlikely that this would happen.

and again, even if it would be possible, it doesn’t target my initial point of the inherent themes homosexuality espouses. It’s in the nature of the phenomenon.

Also, we all have our flaws, I see your homosexuality as a flaw, but you could still be a good person.

Never said otherwise, just try to not give into these urges.

@BabyHenry

And I don’t think homosexuality is a choice in the sense that you can choose to flip a switch on and off, but a choice as in a fat person deciding eat healthy and begin an exercise routine. This may be harder for some, but the point of life is to exemplify the good and suppress the bad.

You may not see it, but I stated my criticism of your lifestyle.

Because it’s harmful for the collective at large.

Your value derives from being a strong stone in a fortress, and unfortunately this attribute you have is a crack in a stone.

The fortress being a metaphor for the collective and the stone being you.

No, there’s nothing wrong with being an outlier, but the effect of your abnormality matters.

I see your affect to largely negative.

I don’t view the LGBT as convincible unfortunately.

We have become too polarised and there is no going back, this even applies to the left/right dialectic.

I've told you my criticisms and I've shown you that these are inherent to homosexuality. You cannot get rid of these flaws. The same way you view transgenderism, I view homosexuality.

My advice to you is to remain chaste if you cannot change your orientation. But also know that you can take steps to actually start finding women attractive. Although I know that women's sexuality is much more malleable than men's.

But I commend you for not diving into drugs, I can see that you want to improve for the better. @BabyHenry

Because you cannot have a child in such a relatonship, which makes the dynamic extremely dependant on sex.

You aren't understanding the criticism. Its the result of such relationships I have contention with, which again is, that the themes homosexuality inherently contains, are not good themes.

This type of libertarianism lead us into this mess.

You yourself see that the LGBT culture is pure venom, your mentality allowed it to spread.

You can have sex for pleasure, but be in a relationship which doesnt have a negative ripple effect on society.

That isnt my criticism.

4.5 to 10

depending where you look

You don't know that.

And this is within a society which accepts and promotes it

now imagine the opposite

I meant that homosexuality is being promoted and is gaining notoriety on things like social media

and yes it does, if not the top down enforcement of morality, homosexuality would not be accepted.

Allowing gay marriage was a huge win for your kind.

after that, opposition against you tanked.

Thats just a semantics argument.

Yes, it depends on your definition of normal.

who cares.

and I specifically said that I dont care if people are outliers.

I care about the impact they have.

Normal means conformity to common behaviour.

If you're looking for a study saying such a thing, then you won't find such a thing. But know that theres a reason why many societies had prejudice against your kind.

But I am affected and it does hurt society.

and I dont used the individual as a big metric.

I am a collectivist. If there is something unpleasant but beneficial to your collective, you should do that.

But again, the dynamic of a homosexual relationship is heavily sexual and you cannot get rid of this.

No, even with a couple who can't have kids, a facade would take its place, and society wouldnt be impacted by this.

Nobody looks at a sterile old couple and thinks that its heavily sexual.

they usually think that this couple lived through their lives and are probably grandparents.

With homosexuals, you instantly know that this isn't the case.

You just aren't understanding it.

No, I dont think this because society made me do so, but because its biologically impossible.

also are you kidding me

Eastern Europe hates homosexuals

Its strongly Catholic or Orthodox

the only safe space for LGBT is the West

and it stops in Eastern Europe.

The legality and the culture is different

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJWzUrLf1aw&t=43s

I'm more familiar with the case of Poland because my family is from there.

The most powerful Eastern European countries?

https://balkaninsight.com/2020/02/25/a-third-of-poland-declared-lgbt-free-zone/

That doesnt mean hes okay with him being homosexual

Im speaking with you right now, doesnt mean I approve of your behaviour.

Are you okay with this?

Not publicising it means not holding hands or kissing in public.

You havent argued against my arguments.

You essentially say that "yes this is the case but I dont care"

That isnt the argument.

1)Homosexual relationships cannot reproduce
2)This makes homosexual relationships very heavily dependant on sexual acts
3)Homosexuals are very distinguishable in society
4)This causes them to have a lot of cultural ammunition and be a focus point if permitted.
5)The themes deriving from homosexuality is that such a lifestyle is permitted
6)This causes many others especially women to pursue such a lifestyle
7)We dont want such a lifestyle to be widespread and should limit it
Conclusion-Homosexuality is bad and shouldnt be promoted.

This is my argument in a syllogism.

Even if you have a homosexual couple not having sex privately, this would still apply.

If i think something is immoral I will do anything what I think is justifiable to stop said immorality.

This doesnt target my argument though.

The foundation of a nation is a healthy family, and a healthy family is one that reproduces. We don't consider infertile people or hermaphrodites to be healthy for that reason.

"Homosexuals being known their gay isn't necessarily a harm, for the most part being civil and productive would not make someone think you're gay the 1st time." When it comes to this point, I agree, hence why I think if you're really a homosexual with no chance of reformation, you should remain abstinent.

Because no matter how hard you try, your private life will be reflected in your public life.

These two things are intertwined and can't be demarcated.

and when it comes to your assertion that homosexuality won't be widespread, we dont know that. Given the increase of LGBT identifying individuals, we can see that there is a rise.

We're just going in circles at this point.

Yes, and even your ideal of homosexuality is still wrong

We'll see about that.

And your true nature comes to light.

You say you arent okay with the LGBT movement but "we're winning".

Yes, Im not a liar like you.