Message from @Carvo
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> 1)Homosexual relationships cannot reproduce
> 2)This makes homosexual relationships very heavily dependant on sexual acts
> 3)Homosexuals are very distinguishable in society
> 4)This causes them to have a lot of cultural ammunition and be a focus point if permitted.
> 5)The themes deriving from homosexuality is that such a lifestyle is permitted
> 6)This causes many others especially women to pursue such a lifestyle
> 7)We dont want such a lifestyle to be widespread and should limit it
> Conclusion-Homosexuality is bad and shouldnt be promoted.
@Carvo you don't need to reproduce to have a happy loving relationship. Infertile people don't reproduce either, neither do hermaphrodites. Homosexuals being known their gay isn't necessarily a harm, for the most part being civil and productive would not make someone think you're gay the 1st time. And you have no proof of gays hurting society if people see they do things differently, that only establishes that heterosexuals are puppets that are controlled by homosexuality and how they perform. That isn't the case and you have no proof of that happening. "We don't want a lifestyle to be widespread" homosexuality would never be widespread if people didn't promote it, but based on history gay people still existed in masses overtime. They're gonna exist either way.
> If i think something is immoral I will do anything what I think is justifiable to stop said immorality.
@Carvo that's subjective
Don't use your own subjectivity
To hurt others
That makes you immoral
Gays aren't an Intrinsic harm, so that makes it worse
The foundation of a nation is a healthy family, and a healthy family is one that reproduces. We don't consider infertile people or hermaphrodites to be healthy for that reason.
That's so dumb
Lmao
"Homosexuals being known their gay isn't necessarily a harm, for the most part being civil and productive would not make someone think you're gay the 1st time." When it comes to this point, I agree, hence why I think if you're really a homosexual with no chance of reformation, you should remain abstinent.
Because no matter how hard you try, your private life will be reflected in your public life.
These two things are intertwined and can't be demarcated.
You're saying that people are bad because they can't reproduce
I said why that was wrong
> Saying that the purpose of sex or orgasm is to have children is technically incorrect. Reproduction is a basic and primary function of sexuality but not an exclusive or necessary one. So all reproductive acts are sexual but not all sexual actions are reproductive. Just because sex has a reproductive function doesn't mean any non reproductive sex is invalid or immoral. For example, the primary purpose of eating food is to survive. However, we also eat food for pleasure, social bonding (family dinner, a date) and other reasons (emotional comfort etc). The existence of a primary purpose for an activity does not mean that this purpose is the exclusive or only valid purpose for it. So sex has both procreative and non procreative functions. Homosexuality is an attraction and by having sex for pleasure isn't necessarily immoral since we all do it.
@BabyHenry
It sex Is wrong
Stop having it for pleasure
Overall
and when it comes to your assertion that homosexuality won't be widespread, we dont know that. Given the increase of LGBT identifying individuals, we can see that there is a rise.
That's because of how it was presented in the west
We're arguing from an ideal standard
Void of that
You're wrong but it's okay
Yes, and even your ideal of homosexuality is still wrong
You're losing in the world
So it makes no difference
To me
We'll see about that.
Well, relevant countries
Anyways
And your true nature comes to light.
You literally wanted homosexuals to be oppressed and harassed
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You say you arent okay with the LGBT movement but "we're winning".
Including me
Your nature been defined
From the beginning
Yes, Im not a liar like you.
You're wrong