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2019-03-22 23:11:44 UTC [The Ice Wall #members-log]  

2019-03-27 19:18:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

What is?

2019-03-27 19:19:06 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I don't think the government needs to be involved to make flat earthers look ridiculous.

2019-03-27 19:19:52 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Spam more videos

2019-03-27 19:20:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

The first one you posted is 52:46 long. Do you want me to stop watching this one and watch the 2nd video? or the 3rd?

2019-03-27 19:23:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Paragraphs. Try them.

2019-03-27 19:33:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Sources?

2019-03-27 19:33:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Other than *it's all bs*

2019-03-27 19:34:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

No, you're supposed to provide proof to your claims.

2019-03-27 19:34:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

That's how it works.

2019-03-28 20:31:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

@Whistler fat chance. all he does is spam videos.

2019-03-28 20:33:16 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

What an entertaining server.

2019-03-28 20:33:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

So glad I joined to watch this.

2019-03-28 20:34:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Just make it so people have to phone verify. problem solved.

2019-03-28 20:35:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

@Your New Leader! just ignore him.

2019-03-28 20:35:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Dude is insane.

2019-03-28 20:36:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

You can't fall into an idiotic argument with some of these people. It's a waste of time.

2019-03-28 20:38:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Ok.

2019-03-28 20:38:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

So what?

2019-03-28 20:39:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Keep posting the same videos over andover.

2019-03-28 20:39:59 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Ok.

2019-03-28 20:40:00 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

So what?

2019-03-28 20:40:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I don't even care, it was how many years ago? How come you're not up in arms about new shite?

2019-03-28 20:41:18 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Hack conspiracy theorist talking about stuff from 2001.

2019-03-28 20:41:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

yawn.

2019-03-28 20:41:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

You're a sad person with seemingly no life. Seeker, and Sheeple.

2019-03-28 20:42:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Yes, these people need to be told to stop spamming.

2019-03-28 20:42:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Same nonsense every day.

2019-03-28 20:42:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Guy has posted the same video and image multiple times.

2019-03-28 20:42:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Never goes into detail or clarification on anything.

2019-03-28 20:43:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Just says "do your own research"

2019-03-28 20:43:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I've lurked for a while before commenting.

2019-03-28 20:43:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Yeah, world isn't fair.

2019-03-28 20:43:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Sometimes people gotta be told.

2019-03-28 20:43:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Get over it.

2019-03-28 20:44:17 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Spamming 9/11 stuff without anything else. what's the point?

2019-03-28 20:44:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

if we all said "ok i agree with you"

2019-03-28 20:44:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

what next?

2019-03-28 20:44:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

that's my pint.

2019-03-28 20:45:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

lol.

2019-03-28 20:45:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Conspiracy theorist go-to #1: "Yeah, they're probably in on it... CIA ops..."

2019-03-28 20:46:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

The funniest thing is when conspiracy theorists turn on eachother and start accusing eachother of being "in on it"

2019-03-28 20:46:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

then they can't get out of their own loop

2019-03-28 20:46:44 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

ie: whats happening with flat earthers right now

2019-03-28 20:47:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

"Mark Seargant is obviously a cia operative"

2019-03-28 20:47:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

keep not saying anything in your own words.

2019-03-28 20:47:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

speaks volumes.

2019-03-28 21:17:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

@Seeker of Truth is there a conspiracy theory you don't believe in?

2019-03-28 21:17:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Serious question.

2019-03-28 21:21:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

They ignore you if you're rude to them. Like I was earlier.

2019-03-28 21:27:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

They say it's just weight.

2019-03-28 21:27:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I think.

2019-03-28 21:28:19 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I've heard flat earthers try to explain it but I don't remember exactly.

2019-03-28 21:28:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

How gravity isn't real etc.

2019-03-29 21:58:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

We went to the moon.

2019-03-29 21:59:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

It would have been technically impossible to fake what was seen on tv in 1969. From a technology stand point.

2019-03-29 22:00:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

@Citizen Z you think the footage shown on tv wasn't real?

2019-03-29 22:01:51 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

The pivotal claim for the Apollo hoax theory without which all falls apart, is that what we saw on tv was slow motion footage of astronauts running around in a film studio.

2019-03-29 22:02:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Because if it wasnโ€™t slow motion, it couldnโ€™t have happened on Earth, right

2019-03-29 22:02:51 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Anyone know anything about how slow motion is produced in film cameras?

2019-03-29 22:03:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

There are two ways to make motion slow:
One is, you shoot it at normal speed, and play it back slow.
One is, you shoot it fast and play it back normal.
The second way is called โ€˜Overcrankingโ€™. It looks smoother and more realistic because youโ€™re sampling natural motion at a higher frame rate. But that means they wouldโ€™ve had to shoot it on film using high speed film cameras, right? Why

2019-03-29 22:04:30 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

In 1969 there were no high-speed video cameras yet. Some people did have magnetic disk recorders that could capture normal speed video and play it back slow. They used it for sports replays; it could record up to 30 seconds. Play back at 10 fps and you got a whopping 90 seconds of slowmo. I say 10 FPS because that was the video framerate for Apollo 11

2019-03-29 22:04:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

They had a Non-Interlaced Slow Scan TV camera specially made for them by Westing House. All the later missions were using regular NTSC video cameras running at 29,97 FPS. That would be 3x harder to fake

2019-03-29 22:04:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I'm getting there if you'd let me.

2019-03-29 22:05:17 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Or this guy can spam

2019-03-29 22:05:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Keep in mind when people today watch documentaries about the Apollo missions, theyโ€™re looking at the highlights. Theyโ€™re looking at short clips cut together. Short clips are much easier to fake. But in July 1969, 600 million people were all staring at a continuous lunar telecast that went on for a long time.

2019-03-29 22:06:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

16 min into the EVA they turn on the video camera. 4min later you get your โ€œone small step for manโ€, then aldrin climbs out, they move the camera onto a tripod, and proceed to do all their moon walking, flag planting, photo snapping, and rock picking. Then Armstrong climbs back up into the lander and its over. By this time the camera has been running for over 143 minutes.

2019-03-29 22:06:30 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

So if weโ€™re faking this with electronic slowmo at 1/3rd speed, we only need to record 47 minutes of continuous live action video on disk.

2019-03-29 22:06:44 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Thatโ€™s a lot more than that Ampex Magnetic disk recorder could hold. Again, commercially available recorders could only hold 30 seconds of video

2019-03-29 22:06:59 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

But for the sake of argument, NASA is special, maybe they have a really large one (in 1969). How much bigger? 96x bigger? They are NASAโ€ฆ maybe they have some super advanced high-speed electronics that no one knows about? But wait a minute, conspiracy theorists said the navigation computers were too slow so they couldnโ€™t possibly have it both ways. Point being: Electronics are not good enough apparently to have a navigation computer that good, so they canโ€™t have electronics good enough for an advanced high-speed camera capable of holding all that footage.

2019-03-29 22:07:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Ok.. so they can't do it with slomo high speed cameras cause it doesn't exist in that scale.

2019-03-29 22:07:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Lets say they try to do it with film.

2019-03-29 22:08:09 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

In 1969 we already knew how to overcrank on film. For Apollo 11 youโ€™d only need to shoot at 30 FPS and play it back at 10 FPS.

2019-03-29 22:08:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Exactly, because conspiracy theorists know nothing about photography, or film, or cameras.

2019-03-29 22:08:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Furthermore...

2019-03-29 22:09:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Let's get back to how arduous it'd be to attempt to re-create what was seen on tv in 1969 to tech that existed at the time.

2019-03-29 22:12:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Youโ€™re gonna have to shoot on 35mm to minimize film grain.
Normal 35mm runs at 90 feet per minute, but since weโ€™re shooting at 30 FPS thatโ€™ll be 112.5 feet per minute.
We need 47 min of original film, so thatโ€™s about 5300 feet of film. And there are no 35mm film magazines that hold 5300 feet. But I guess if you shoot 1000-foot loads, then you could do it in 5 mags. Butโ€ฆ you donโ€™t wanna see the splice marks when you put the reels together, cause then everyone would know it was a fake. Remember weโ€™re shooting for TV so its 1:3:3 aspect ratio and not 1:8:5, which means you have to do A&B rolls. Thatโ€™s where you cut the negative into A&B rolls and print them onto a 5300-foot fine grain interpositive, then cut an โ€˜Answer Printโ€™ in the film lab. And then I guess make everyone who works in that lab disappearโ€ฆ
Weโ€™re still not done though, you still need to find a custom made really big Telecine that can transfer your 5300-foot answer print to video at 10 FPS. Pin registered of course. How hard can that be? Then I guess you have to be certain that in all of that splicing, printing, and transferring, none of the most common film articats have gotten onto your giant print. No emulsion flakes or base scratches, no gate weave, no film grain, and not one spec of dustโ€ฆ cause any one of those will instantly betray that itโ€™s a hoax. Oh, and then do all of that for the other missions.

2019-03-29 22:12:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

They wont even read that.

2019-03-29 22:14:30 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Good arguments... lol.

2019-03-29 22:16:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

How am I trolling?

2019-03-29 22:24:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I was arguing that it was impossible in 1969 to fake the moon landing because film and video tech wasn't good enough to recreate what was seen on tv. I wrote it out in detail, the entire thing but, i just got flushed out with pic/video spam.

2019-03-29 22:25:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I have it all written out in a word doc, so i can paste the whole thing. just cause i assumed that would happen - the video/image spam.

2019-03-29 22:26:59 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Possibly. The problem is, if I'm being honest, the later you get in time, the more easily it would be to hoax whatever you want on film.

2019-03-29 22:28:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

It's for the vc apparently. Was what was told to me yesterday.

2019-03-29 22:29:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I'm all set. But thanks.

2019-03-31 17:24:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I thought Jernisism proved globe by accident while trying to prove flat earth?

2019-03-31 17:24:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

:p

2019-03-31 17:24:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

lmao

2019-03-31 17:24:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

@Research_Flat_Earth - not going to comment?

2019-03-31 17:24:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

on my comment?

2019-03-31 17:24:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Figured.

2019-03-31 17:25:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

What about the gyroscope?

2019-03-31 17:25:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

The 20k Gyro that was gonna prove flat earth

2019-03-31 17:25:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

If you don't like it it leave.

2019-03-31 17:25:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

As they like to say here.

2019-03-31 17:26:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Except one is proven by science to be true. Oh and we've been to space and took pictures despite what flat earther's believe.

2019-03-31 17:27:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

spamming pics and videos isn't going to change anything. Plus the fact that billions of people agree with globers.

2019-03-31 17:27:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

No they're not.

2019-03-31 17:27:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

/gg

2019-03-31 17:27:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

They wanna say they're fake. i Say they're real. gg.

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