notJustin43
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I say we let them run with it
With their own states
...they can run their states into the ground, and we can live how we want to live
I just don't want it pushed to the federal level.
> That doesn't work they still will get in power. Look at New York were guiliani basically saved the city the de blasio got elected and ruined it again. We tried that and it didn't work
@Stg_Qube I just don't see any kind of path which reasonably brings them to a middle ground, regarding federal politics.
> speaking of, what do you guys think about people getting jail time for burning the flag?
@Meryl.140.15 I hate people burning the flag...but once we start making that illegal, it just gives these people ammunition to make some of our actions illegal
I'd rather always side with the liberty side of things...
Socially, I won't accept it
I won't even do business with them
Same...I won't associate with them.
I just don't want to make it illegal because of the precedent it sets for them to make actions illegal once they re-define morality
I just say we counter it by:
every time they burn a flag
we show up with 100
irony
the problem with anything is when people start using it to define some kind of perceived superiority / heirarchy
You see it with coffee snobs
wine snobs
vegan snobs
none of those things are inherently bad
People sometimes just attach the negative emotions of the prominent snobs of those groups
to the items / actions as a whole
I love coffee...I hate coffee snobs
I think the same concept applies here
You're a vegan...but clearly not a vegan snob
Nothing wrong with that
Is that a reference?
Hahaha omfg 😆 well done
I think this concept has broader implications though:
I think many of the issues we are divided on as a nation arise from "snobs" trying to enforce their views of morality / superiority on each other
It's such an easy trap to fall into, and I think both "the right' and "the left" are guilty of it
Though I think the left is being driven to the left much faster...as their heirarchy incentivizes constant change for the sake of change itself (rather than any definite end-goal)
I think people get a high off "the fight"....humans instinctually want a war and an enemy
Lol, I think most people here would be pretty chill debating with you even if you were Bernie 2020
But not going to lie, I'm happy you're joking
Doing good, hbu?
We've been moving to 1984 at a ridiculous pace
They've read it
They just see it as a user guide
The leaders of the movement are okay with that, too
It's not the leaders of far-left policies who suffer
The leaders benefit by centralizing power under their boot
I made dis (the potato at the bottom is for 9gag - kind of a 9gag thing...potatos always = attention / upvotes)
But it couldn't be the protests...there's no way packing millions of people shoulder to shoulder on the street could increase the case number.....so it must be Trump's fault, right?
*sarcasm, just in case it wasn't clear 😛
@everyone If a polling outlet calls and asks who you're voting for, please just tell them Kanye. If this could spread, it would be great to see the left freak out over it. (Please don't actually vote for Kanye, though).
> @notJustin43 LOL!
@ReneAensland Dead serious though...we should make this a thing. Tell your friends 😛
> I think the average American has had enough
@Mauler Just make sure you implore like-minded individuals to vote.
This election is too important not to.
Right now I only see liberal memes on these sites
I'll do the same.
We love humor, I think she's just talking about the space many images take up in the thread.
idk though, I just got here
Just deleted my meme and gonna put it in the general-meme-dump
If you can, go post a few memes a day in liberal-leaning places
Just made dis
> @notJustin43 why
@Hanimikyu Why what?
Nice! Drop the banhammer!
Was anyone here a fan of Harvest Moon? Like the ones from the 90's and early 00's?
I'm not a fan of Jew-memes like that...besides voting Left, I really don't see any cultural issues prevalent in their communities
If it has humor, fine....but that's just making them look bad....I don't see the humor in it.
Our prepardness won't serve us any good if we don't draw a line
If this progressivism takes root, and takes power...and there's no end in sight
Will we do something about it?
Tyranny by the majority is a real possibility in the next few decades...what happens if we loose the chance to be represented at the national level?
All this talk about allowing non-citizens to vote....that would do it. You'd never have another conservative president again.
What do we do at that point? Just let NY and CA rule us from afar? Or do we at some point kindly tell them that we want to go our own way.
If it comes to it, we have to be ready to kindly tell them we're going our own way....and stand up for ourselves if they try to tread.
Btw...this was at one of the recent protests:
We can stand up for ourselves at some point.
They change things slowly so we don't
with this slowly "creeping normality"
The conservative community needs to come together and draw a line
a line that says "once this point is crossed, we're out"
With that attitude
You're guaranteeing it
We need to come up with a line....and as a community tell ourselves "That's it....that is the call for us to leave"
Peacefully
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A history doesn't guarantee the trend will hold in the future
Those events only happened because people stood up, drew a line, and said "enough is enough".
Modern politics changes slowly to prevent people from forming such attitudes
So, we need to draw a line...if it's crossed tomorrow, 10 years from now, whenever
We decide to peacefully go our own way
The point still stands....our 2A won't do us any good if it doesn't allow the people the opportunity to self-govern, if they think their federal government doesn't represent them anymore
It is a deterrent
It says "we're peacefully going our way...but don't come tread on us"
It will be more trouble than it's worth
Exactly.
But we've let the Left be the only activists in our modern society....conservatives have just wanted to live their lives
We have to be ready to stand up for what we believe in sometime down the road
I fear that too many of us will just roll over and let it happen, should the left call for authoritarianism
We have to convince like minded people to be ready to some day defend their views if necessary
And support autonomy for certain states
Should the need arise
(hopefully it doesn't)
but I don't like the direction we're headed in
Don't be a defeatist
Do something about it
Change minds as much as you can
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