a line that says "once this point is crossed, we're out"

We have our line, but the left does not

Greetings

We can do that, and maybe it will work, but eventually leftism will win and life in the future will be a communist shithole :(

@Lore hello

With that attitude

You're guaranteeing it

Not before a civil war breaks out

We need to come up with a line....and as a community tell ourselves "That's it....that is the call for us to leave"

Peacefully

I have been reading the conversation, do you mind if I inquire? Are y’all under 30?

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You forget that America is built upon the backs of people fighting back qgainst tyranny. From our revolutionary war, the war of 1812, to the countless irishmen koving here who fled British control, and to the civil war

But that tyranny is looking more and more appealing to people

A history doesn't guarantee the trend will hold in the future

That is the scary part

Those events only happened because people stood up, drew a line, and said "enough is enough".

Modern politics changes slowly to prevent people from forming such attitudes

So, we need to draw a line...if it's crossed tomorrow, 10 years from now, whenever

I can assure y’all that there are folks who still remember better times and will not be pushed much more

We decide to peacefully go our own way

Politics even then moved at a very slow pace

The point still stands....our 2A won't do us any good if it doesn't allow the people the opportunity to self-govern, if they think their federal government doesn't represent them anymore

It is a deterrent

We are already starting to have our 2A taken away from us

It says "we're peacefully going our way...but don't come tread on us"

It will be more trouble than it's worth

Gun grabbers in government are already trying to ban "assault weapons"

They don't even know what the fuck that means

Exactly.

But we've let the Left be the only activists in our modern society....conservatives have just wanted to live their lives

"Assault weapons" have the fun switch

My AR doesn't

We have to be ready to stand up for what we believe in sometime down the road

Yeah, we just own an AR "pistol" with an arm brace

I fear that too many of us will just roll over and let it happen, should the left call for authoritarianism

I know, nobody will do shit when the left takes over. People will just be useful idiots and let it happen

We have to convince like minded people to be ready to some day defend their views if necessary

And support autonomy for certain states

Should the need arise

(hopefully it doesn't)
but I don't like the direction we're headed in