@realz I think Viva is pretty objective. You can’t be completely objective or you’re just explaining facts and not interpreting anything

@realz eh I guess. LegalEagle seems like the counter argument to me and that guy just makes up facts 😂

I recall his defense of Captain America. Hahaha that’s actually where I began to question his motives

I was like “naw I think that is assault man”

Alright well I could get behind a genuine legal liberal lawyer but maybe they are all busy with cases.

Lol I still think that the people I watch are useful. Tbh I think there has been a change in balance. It used to be the liberals were the underdogs and conservatives the establishment. I think those days are gone. So there is a higher demand for conservative thought because Americans like listening to underdogs.

Fair. I donated $25 to Kyle so I guess I helped get that lawyer richer 😂

If someone can hack in and change this channels name to “lawyers on social media” we will be fine lol

Why would you want to come to America, according to Sleepy Joes party it’s the worst country on earth 😂


I kid I kid.

Yeah, it takes four years to brainwash people on average.


I mean four years ago all my liberal friends believed everyone’s vote should count equally. Flash forward to two weeks ago and I see people saying they would rather end Trump than COVID.

We got the Senate. Anyone who has watched Star Wars knows the Senate is what matters.

Also two other presidents have been inaugurated in contested elections and we are still here. 3 if you count Bush v Gore.

I always think it’s telling when people believe that Trump is actually a moron who engages in public tantrums. Like I expect them to follow it up with an explanation of how The Rock won Monday Night Raw after being betrayed by Vince McMahon 😂

@Doc I mean if you are trying to be funny to each his own. But if you honestly think Donald Trump is a moron it says more about your ability to assess other people than it does about President Trump.

@Zuluzeit You are the one being disingenuous. Donald Trump is calculating, that’s how he became the president without GOP establishment support. You are confusing you’re dislike for him with maladaptive traits so that you can feel morally superior to him. That’s disingenuous.

Yeah, I agree it’s Republicans. Mostly because it’s whatever party is going to let people act on self interest and not meddle in peoples lives.

@SaberToothRat Oddly enough, all of the people who claims to be bleeding heart liberals voted the first President in over 40 years not to start a new war. All the people he killed lead terrorist organizations or funded terrorist organizations. I find it difficult to swallow now when people tell me they care about the collateral damage where families and children die accidentally during military operations we start but then turn around and say “Well the orange man hurt my feelings”. To me, that has to be one of the most hypocritical concern trolls possible. It will be a miracle if Biden doesn’t engage in a military conflict. They say conservatives have no heart, I say be concerned about those whose empathy results in you being hurt, killed, having less liberty, less resources, less options etc. Along time ago there were many liberals who had heart. I think Bernie probably has a heart but is clouded by his economic illiteracy.

*voted out of office.

@SaberToothRat where are you from?

Oh. That’s an awkward situation there I have heard. I mean I can understand why history would create a lot of division between people but I also know that capitalism is the best way we know to level a playing field. I have heard that there is a lot of redistribution of resources. This rarely helps marginalized people. But I don’t know much about the situation, only a little bit.

@SaberToothRat Whats the road to unity there?

@Doc Just because you are paid to do something doesn’t mean you’re good at. Business consultants are a good example of an industry of overpaid “experts”.

@Doc I am also not impressed by an appeal to authority. I am also not convinced that the average psychologist knows much more actionable information than common sense and observation yields. I suspect it’s like poker, where there are a few individuals in the tail of the distribution who really excel and then there is the bulk where people are performing no better than a coin toss. I notice that people who “assess people for a living” tend to be assessing through a very narrow lens painted by the bias in their professions. To the man with a hammer, every problem is a nail. It’s easier to feign objectivity when your presuppose that your value system is based in science. (Edit: Metaphor dyslexia)

I have seen a lot of mental health experts and psychologist try to marginalize Trump by saying he suffers from various mental illness or maladaptive traits. I have seen this same technique applied to anyone they want to marginalize. That’s the narrow lens I speak of and it has nothing to do with caring for anyone’s mental health and everything to do with establishing the framework from which they want the debate to begin so they can control the outcome. I am I persuaded by your rebuttal and don’t believe I have done anything to convince you of my argument. So we will both be better off agreeing to disagree.

Yeah, I don’t have a degree in neuroscience but I know how to Google, so I looked it up when you used it the first time. It’s insignificant to my point whether it’s mental health or your diagnosing a neurological condition.

@Doc I still believe you are using your knowledge to justify your bias rather than drawing conclusions from the facts available. And you are trying to cloud the issue by relating the conversation to a topic you know is not understood well by the general public. “Experts” do this often. Because they know they are unlikely to be challenged by anyone outside of their field they can substitute reason and evidence with their own personal bias or what they would like to see as the outcome in public opinion. So like I said, I am not persuaded that your assessment of Trump. In addition, the original statement was that people see Trump as a moron. You stated this was because of cerebellar atrophy and later moved the goal post to exclude the conversation of whether or not he was a moron. I assume this is because being a moron didn’t fit with the science of your argument so it was necessary to change the premise so you could “win” the argument. I am uninterested in arguing though. My point is that I find the mental gymnastics someone has to do when they say a man who was voted into the most powerful public office in the world, is a moron. And I think you are uninterested in an unbiased conversation on the topic, hence my suggestion we move on.

@xephael that seems like a reasonable statement to me, but I am not an expert in mental health. And the original argument was about people calling him a moron and how I thought it was disingenuous. So, you may be right, I do not know the specific agreed upon definitions of mental health and neurological conditions. I think as a layman if something is neurologically wrong with me I could hear myself explaining that in terms of mental health. I just am not interested in having a pedantic conversation with the Doc to justify what, to me, is clearly a bias.

@Zuluzeit I wasn’t talking to you. Our conversation ended when you said I was being disingenuous for not understanding how someone could believe Trump is a moron. I understand that people believe he is a moron, but I do not see how they reach that conclusion rationally. Morons don’t organize and lead large groups of people. It’s hyperbole and everyone used to know it was hyperbole, but now people believe it. There all sorts of politicians I dislike for being economically illiterate, opportunistic etc. but there are not many of them I would call morons outside of casual conversation with friends. The few people that are morons or incompetent and do find themselves at the top of large groups of people must be put there at great effort. Trump is just not one of these people. He understands media and the audience he speaks to. Calling him stupid with any sincerity is either a failure in judgment or itself disingenuous. If he were actually a moron, what would that say about Democratic leadership that they couldn’t stop a moron who wasn’t well liked by the old guard in the GOP from becoming the President of the United States. If he is a moron then most of the world are morons. Which I am sure is a view many people calling him a moron subscribe to, but it’s a ridiculous view point.

@Zuluzeit you said he was going to throw a tantrum, it was a jab at his intelligence and his ability to function rationally.

Tantrums are thrown by children. It’s a reasonable inference. If all you said he was going to be opportunistic and vindictive then I wouldn’t infer anything. I think it’s intellectually dishonest. Maybe it was just colloquial. Or I could just be wrong and you were being humorous. But I hear people say things like this all of the time and I think it’s bad for society. So if that is not what you were doing I apologize for my inference. Most of my criticisms were directed elsewhere, but some were aimed at your comments.

Being intellectually dishonest is bad for society. Be as critical of politicians as you want.

I am talking about the way people frame their opponents and ideologies they dislike.

@Zuluzeit fair enough. I think he plays a role but you may think it’s immaturity.

@Maw I understand hyperbole.

Because it’s a message repeated often in society as literal. Many people believe Trump is a literally an idiot. And this thinking extends to all sorts of perspectives beyond Trump. My friends genuinely believe they are smarter than Trump. In fact they believe they are smarter than most people. So that is what I think is bad for society.

@Maw no I am not. And honestly I don’t care if you get it. No offense but I have said what I wanted to say on the matter and I have nothing to gain by arguing.

It is what it is, I would prefer to move on.

I mean I think it was reasonable to respond to Zulu. It turns out there was a miscommunication on my part and responding resolved it.

@realz it’s not that uncharacteristic. Fox is not a fan of Donald Trump and establishment Republicans are not willing to contest the election. They believe it’s a bad look for the party and are not generally big Trump fans even though he expanded the base.

Well there wouldn’t be a transition team

I think Joe Rogan summed it up best when he said “we all know something fishy happened and this gonna sound bad, but maybe for the sake of the country it’s okay”. I don’t personally think it’s okay but I think that his sentiment really explains what everyday people think. Sure the Democrats held the country hostage with a pandemic, but for now let’s get back to work. We can deal with the corruption later.

And hopefully Americans remember in two years how one party put a gun to their head and still had to commit election fraud. Plus Trump isn’t going away. This guy is the last guy you want with spare time. Like an old neighbor who hates you and is retired.

It would be hilarious if the right wing media started saying “hey man, we can’t go back to work, it’s dangerous”

Anyway as a capitalist I can work in any economy.

@realz agreed, that is a separate issue than Bendfords law.

The reason that the first digit appears in ratios is because we have a system of numbers based in 10

So 1 should appear more often than other numbers. It would be different than if it was evaluating the last digit that appears.

The last 2 numbers I would expect to be uniform in distribution

Yeah but I am sharing that Benfords law isn’t about what’s being measured. Though what’s being measured could bias what you would expect to see.

I agree Meglide that the base may effect the law

As for whether or not it is accurate here I do not know. I think that something probably happened, but it was a conspiracy of convenience not malice. Many people probably thought it was their duty to ensure Trump not win. I, erring on the side of process, would disagree that it’s right to intervene but understand the argument. Like there are cases where I would put the outcome above the process.

@realz could be, I would be interested to know.

Aliens are an interesting proposition. Most rational people I know believe aliens exist somewhere and I agree. But no one I know, including me, would believe you if you testified you saw one. Maybe because we subconsciously believe that this type of event would be world wide.

@Doc Well that’s vague because I am definitely here. I interpret that as you saying it’s a tail end event.

@Zuluzeit agreed. The more unlikely a proposition is the more evidence I require.

@Doc what’s supposed to mean lol

There are a lot of planets though. More planets than grains of sand on beaches in the world I am pretty sure.

Greys @meglide 😂

I am gonna be honest, that’s suspect of accurate.

I kinda like that guy. I mean I don’t think he is sane but he is funny.

If there is alien technology none of our political disagreements are relevant anymore. We are in an arms race 😂

Already trying to suck up you turn coat! @Doc 😂

I am pretty sure Fermi’s Paradox is explained by things like the Borg. Frankly I would like to see less neon signs telling everyone bigger than us that we are home.

@Doc usually I hope peoples wishes come true. Not this time.

We have to find a way to tie this in somehow

Who do you guys think the aliens voted for 😂

I read an article that said developed countries IQs are sliding back. So pretty soon that kind of comedy will be above a lot of people’s heads lol

Bob Dole parodied himself looks

Lol*

Yup

Obviously we are too successful

@Doc on the multitasking note, the military has pivoted to specifically recruiting people good at multitasking (relatively good I suppose). So it seems like a semi permanent fundamental change.

Fair @Zuluzeit

Well people, I don’t know how much more we can say about this election. Aliens and IQs probably wraps it up lol

Imagine going back in time and explaining this situation. So there these protest that turned to riots. Some armed men came to defend the property. 3 protesters were shot trying to disarm a man. Then the government tried to prosecute him. No you heard me right.

Lol my scene was more like early America before the West was civilized.

Or even after really. I don’t think this would be prosecuted in a lot of places gun control became a big political issue.

Even after that, I see this prosecution as centering around gun control ultimately. You are right though, maybe he said something that was incriminating. But the first guy looked to be trying to disarm Kyle. Maybe I am not recalling correctly. That’s what it looked like to me though.

I have no issue with IQ tests but I don’t think the state should use them. I think employers should be allowed to use them though. But to me the best indicator of success is perseverance. It’s just hard to measure.

Yeah so basically I don’t think anyone should be prosecuted for defending themselves for, being disarmed unlawfully.

I suppose it makes sense for the military for expediency, but I probably would still lean towards the state just making an evaluation based on performance. Yeah I am probably against state use in call cases.

There is def a deep state which needs to be watched closely. Or disbanded lol

If I suspected fraud I would use chain of custody to demonstrate mail ballots that were fraudulent. If I knew before hand.

If you ain’t cheating you ain’t trying. -some dude who wins Super Bowls 😂

They had to have known

Ballots that were meant to be disposed of could be watermarked and used.

Not that I know of

Yeah it’s down everywhere for me

They are letting the government know who is boss 😂

Cause of youtube? 😂

Thanks Faith!

The government is in the business of monopoly busting. The standard they apply is just different than it used to be as a result of regulatory capture. Which is a byproduct of expanded government not capitalism.

https://youtu.be/lao3OaTUKTI

I didn’t catch which stream Robert went over the Texas SCOTUS standing in. Does anyone know what his interpretation was?

That’s the answer I would expect from you 😂 but thanks for giving me the gist

Do you think anyone has standing to sue if the vote was not faithful to the law of the legislature? I mean clearly Congress can step in when there is voter fraud but don’t you think states have measurable specific harm?

Plus SCOTUS’ refusal to hear the case is a message to the legal community. Better they should have issued an opinion

@D EMC that’s how corruption works man 😂

What about not starting any new wars?

People complain about Trump. Sure he is an egomaniac but by and far he just says wack stuff sometimes. You need an egomaniac to take on some of these other countries. Liberal governors sat on their hands while lives were ruined. Entire retirements and businesses gone.