Message from @PerformedShelf

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2018-10-24 17:16:59 UTC  

No, he was not saying the same thing.

2018-10-24 17:17:24 UTC  

He was implying that I was denying Tim's rationale for seeing this as a big story.

2018-10-24 17:17:42 UTC  

I think that it might not be a big story, based on how frequently it happens.

2018-10-24 17:17:54 UTC  

you said it's frequent, i said it's not normal
the two statements aren't contradictory

2018-10-24 17:18:12 UTC  

I was arguing that the severity of an incident alone does not determine this, which is why I brought up the case infant death.

2018-10-24 17:18:16 UTC  

and i didn't mean to attack you, so i'm sorry if it came across that way

2018-10-24 17:18:34 UTC  

It is a loss of life, yet, due to how frequently it happens, we do not see it as an extraordinary news study.

2018-10-24 17:19:19 UTC  

When he implied that "It shouldn't ever be normal, it's normal to get worked up about it." it was implying that I was trying to normalize it.

2018-10-24 17:19:22 UTC  

suspicious packages arriving is not abnormal. Ones which are reported as being potentially functional bombs, are.

2018-10-24 17:19:39 UTC  

That is incredibly patronizing, because the implication is that I was diminishing it through normalizing it.

2018-10-24 17:19:51 UTC  

Dude, he wasnt saying you were normalising it

2018-10-24 17:20:03 UTC  

He was just saying he thinks it shouldnt be seen as normal

2018-10-24 17:20:51 UTC  

And I was saying that it might be normal, without trying to artificially diminish the severity of such an incident.

2018-10-24 17:22:04 UTC  

that's not what i was trying to say
but my timing and phrasing were bad, sorry about that

2018-10-24 17:22:15 UTC  

Alright.

2018-10-24 17:22:23 UTC  

If that's not what you meant, fine.

2018-10-24 17:22:28 UTC  

Well, rather than normal, should we use commonplace

2018-10-24 17:22:44 UTC  

Something can be commonplace, but not normal

2018-10-24 17:23:11 UTC  

No, I am just saying that normal and severe is not the same. It's normal that we die, but I would never want to diminish the death of a person.

2018-10-24 17:24:13 UTC  

I wasn't trying to diminish the severity of injuries a letter bomb can cause, but depending on how frequently it happens, it could still be selective feeding of news outlets.

2018-10-24 17:24:59 UTC  

Exactly, it s commonplace, but even though it is commonplace it is not normal

2018-10-24 17:25:08 UTC  

I would argue that no crime is normal

2018-10-24 17:25:28 UTC  

I don't see the difference between commonplace and normal. They are both terms used to denote frequency.

2018-10-24 17:25:32 UTC  

And that crime is the antithesis of normality in a societal setting

2018-10-24 17:25:51 UTC  

The distinction I am trying to make is between frequency and severity/impact.

2018-10-24 17:26:11 UTC  

Those are orthogonal characteristics.

2018-10-24 17:26:51 UTC  

to me, "normal" implies a level of acceptance
as in, something follows the norms

2018-10-24 17:26:59 UTC  

To me, the word normal has ethical connections rather than being strictly frequency

2018-10-24 17:27:04 UTC  

Okay ... I don't think I'm being understood. At the least, I was wrong to assume that it was intentional.

2018-10-24 17:27:32 UTC  

I am sorry to have assumed malice, but I still maintain I am being misconstrued, even if inadvertently.

2018-10-24 17:28:12 UTC  

aye, we seem to be talking past each other
imma go have dinner instead of interrupting with semantics

2018-10-24 17:28:29 UTC  

Okay. Enjoy your dinner.

2018-10-24 17:29:38 UTC  

Normal is a very subjective word, since what is normal to one person can be not normal to another

2018-10-24 17:30:03 UTC  

And here we go. Right on time.

2018-10-24 17:30:22 UTC  

"In what must be one of the most rapidly written, edited, and published op-eds in New York Times history, Alexander Soros, son of billionaire globalist puppet-master George Soros, has penned a blame-scaping piece pointing directly at president Trump's "politics of demonizing opponents" as responsible for the bombing of his father, The Clintons, The Obamas, and well anyone else who has received a suspicious package in the last few days and is not in any way right-leaning."

2018-10-24 17:31:18 UTC  

That's what I was trying to get at.

2018-10-24 17:31:22 UTC  

I still hold that these mysterious packages were Note 7's

2018-10-24 17:31:32 UTC  

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

2018-10-24 17:31:36 UTC  

lel

2018-10-24 17:31:56 UTC  

kek