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gravitino
good ol' subatomic particle heavier/larger than neutrino I believe
The original statment about atheism being a religion is incorrect, because while there may be organised atheists that believe a particular set of things, there are also atheists that are not organised and do not believe a specific set of things
There are many different types of Christians, some are more organized while others are small churches or entirely independent.
But all are based on the same core tenets
Atheism is not
Atheism has the core tenet of refuting religion
Incorrect
then what is atheism?
It isnt about refuting religion, there may be some who make it a point to talk about atheism as an opposite to religion but as I said earlier, atheism is more about the simple premice that there is no god
So there is a core tenet.
In that respect yes I would have to agree, although it is impossilbe for there to be a way of thinking that contains no tenets
you have core tenet to not belive my spagetti monster.
When it comes down to it there are probably only a handful more universal core tenets that you could find in all of Christians. These could become pretty distinct, like the Miaphysites or the Nasrani for example.
Religion is more than a tenet or set of tenets though, it is a system of belief that sometimes includes ritual or tradition
You are right in that atheism lacks any ritual or tradition, which is its problem.
If you really want to stretch the definition of religion, just state that the scientific method and the scientific community are those aspects
But the thing is, that you can do that for anything
That is the point of the Tech Priests in 40k.
Religion is more than that though
I will concede that atheism isn't a religion in of itself, but atheism is often not packaged on its own.
Atheism rejects a supernatural god to be worshipped
and even the existence of one
I believe that religion is innate to humans and not the Universe, but it is essential part of our being and not one that should be starved.
christianity is jewsih.
I think atheism can lead someone susceptible into another ideology that surplants the role that religion usually has.
salvation is from the jews" john 4:22
If we can agree that the only thing seperating religion from any other way of thinking, that involves ritual and tradition, is the supernatural entity, then what you are saying is that it is inherent that all should need to be fulfilled by a supernatural entity
God is not an active being
That would suggest a lack of free will
Humans are the only beings we know to have a higher consciousness, I believe the conscious mind to be the closest thing to God that we know exists.
Like Yeshua Ha'Notzri says, "The kingdom is inside you, and all around you."
The Prophet does not become a Prophet by doing nothing, the Prophet must manifest out what was envisioned to him.
I would ttend to agree that the uniqueness of the human consciousness is a phenomenon that could lead to that conclusion, but it is also impossible for us to know whether there is or is not consciousness within any other living being in the universe
And if they do share consciousness like ours, I would call them Humans.
I believe Human to be the idea of the sentient being, in a literal sense we are just Hominids.
There does not require there to be a god for any of those things to be true though
They don't, but they can be explained by it.
All things can be explained by the supernatural
That is the point of the supernatural