!agree

/\agreed

this will only serve to create more garbage division

oh also hi people im new

they will come back

they *always* come back

i agree with super saiyen

contro are you then calling for what? action?

then what could the right do

i dont even know about that anymore

the fighting back part i mean

antifa is a terrorist group imo (and objectivly) so the law can take care of them

i mean i would be ok with it is what im saying

sry i no good at words

idk man

addicted to outrage

JustTom i heavily disagree

its not the place of the people to do such a thing without propor authorization

*proper

i like mr. super saiyen over here

huh

why is that?

No, you cannot fight fire with fire just as you cannot fight violence with more violence

you must administer order to the chaos

that is the path to hell

im dont mean literall hell

*sigh* you dont fight a giant fireball with another giant fireball how bout that

you are literally advocating for PEOPLE to organize and fight against a TERRORIST group

unless im misunderstanding

but what truly needs to happen is for the government to get up off its ass and do it

because it isnt the place of the people to do so

if we were to go through with what you say it would NOT bring order, just more chaos

that isnt helpful and you know it

to just tom i mean

of course i cant make the government do something but the people legally can

and have a chance of doing it

if you resort to violence you break the law and make everything worse

this is always how things escalate, people take into their own hands what they absolutely should not

the american revolution was a very unique scenario, it is very different than the antifa situation in america

bottom line: we absolutely CANNOT take violent action against antifa ourselves unless it is in provable self defense

that would be provable self defense

in i guess a very loose definition of it lol

"So, why should I care if they add a few more names to that list, if in the end, I stop their violence and terrorism?" wha... WHAT? do you even HEAR yourself right now? the ends do not justify the means. this is the path that anifa took

look, i understand what you are saying and actually i do agree to some extent

BUT

well yeah what he said

"That's a terrorist act, and they all need to be shot." im sorry i didnt realize you run the law

i do as well, but i also support not killing people

like i said, it isnt your place to overrule the law

WELL I DONT START FIRING INTO THE CROWD THATS FOR DAMN SURE

XD

you fucking HIDE

because if you try to retaliate i garuntee you will DIE

against a mob of people with molotovs

and then what?

what is left?

because let me tell you something

*you just became a killer*

I love how well that worked between us XD

i would have said call the cops but i figured that was already a given and they werent gunna do anything given the way the question was framed

!rank

also, the way to truly solve this is to go to the root

find out why the cops arent doing anything

we as the people can advocate for our government to do something about them if we try hard enough

i agree with vort, self defense is the only justifiable circumstance for retaliation

but NOT violence

they are 2 different things

WOW holy shit dude im not suddenly on your side?? XD

SELF DEFENSE ISNT FIRING INTO THE CROWD COUNTIN HEADSHOTS WHAT

self defense is locking yourself in a secure place and IF they get in you incapacitate them if possible, murder is the last resort

you advocated for it IMMEDIATELY

that was an exaggeration i know but i thought it flowed well

i mean if its in self defense, especially in texas, you can do a lot of shit

that.. i ... what? i said murder is last resort

i didnt mean shoot to incapacitate

ok, let me recenter, i think i kinda lost what i was trying to say

ok, im against firing on an open crowd of people, i am for self defense if need be but i do not think that means murder.

god this chat makes me remember why i drink

at 16 years old

@JustTom ?

@JustTom oh yeah that whole migrant situation in europe is FUCKED as hell

like its super bad

As a former Muslim, Islam needs reform badly. It is an extremely sexist religion and in cultures where it is practiced properly (proper meaning how it is supposed to be according to the Quran) there are so many social inequalities and just bad stigmas man

I am not talking about AMERICAN MUSLIMS, those are different

what i mean by american muslims are muslims who were born here and had immigrant parents/grandparents/etc down the line

"one of the bad ones" i know it isnt racist, like, at all, but that totally sounds like something someone super racist would say XD

thats isis for you

fundamentalists

yeah actually a lot of migrant muslims in the us are chill but a lot are also not

thats basically the gist of it

i agree with the morgan dusty

actually yes

thats exactly what islam needs

westernization

dave c what are you even doing here man XD

no i disagree that they must denounce islam

but they must understand that their eastern values will not translate here

@Dave C you can talk!

dusty morgan i disagree, but only because i dont think that it is right to subject the entire population of muslim migrants to denouncing their religion