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2019-09-13 16:42:36 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Also South Korea took the brunt of the damage from the Japanese occupation considering most of the North was pretty agrarian during that time period

2019-09-13 16:44:20 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

It took a long time to reach even-gender population because the japanese took so many young women as prostitutes during the 30s and WWII

2019-09-13 16:44:31 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Hit the economy like a truck

2019-09-13 16:45:04 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Especially during the transitory stages where the japenese were still being expunged by both the communist North and capitilist south

2019-09-13 17:06:53 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Aren't they doing something similar to Russia with Conception Day?

2019-09-13 17:09:13 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Basically, you get the day off work and if there is a kid born within certain timing of days, the kid gets government benefits as they move through life

2019-09-13 17:09:20 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

You get paid to bone on a holiday

2019-09-13 21:00:01 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

"common cause with libertarianism" ahem... *what?*

That's what gets me off

Hey he helped me and Cobra Commander birth Ultra God

2019-09-13 23:31:57 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #trump]  

Because if you're working and not even better off than somebody who isn't working, that would build resentment

2019-09-14 00:14:10 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Hitler dumped an insane amount of man power and money into researching the occult and stuff like summoning demons and crap like that

2019-09-14 00:17:02 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

ha

2019-09-14 00:21:29 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

wow

2019-09-14 00:21:31 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #race-issues]  

hot take

2019-09-14 00:28:47 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

*even hotter take*

Is this a trick question?

2019-09-14 01:28:21 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #trump]  

OK say you're getting 1000 a month from UBI but if you started a part time minimum wage job, and I'm talking a state with high minimum wage like maryland at 10.10 and lets be generous and say you get around 30 hours a week. You're working and only making about 212 dollars more a month than the person sitting on their ass doing nothing.

2019-09-14 01:30:52 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #trump]  

Now if you apply that to the federal minimum wage you'd need to work at minimum wage almost full time in order to break a thousand a month

2019-09-14 01:31:16 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #trump]  

To make the same amount of money as somebody literally doing nothing

2019-09-14 01:31:41 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #trump]  

So you would continue giving out UBI to the person with the job to prevent that from happening

2019-09-14 01:47:42 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Trotsky proposed the theory of permanent revolution, the democratic system your thinking of is purely the creation of Lenin: Democratic Centralism which effectively removes the aspect of Representational Democracy where dissenters would break away from the main body and form another party. Effectively though, in practice it was just the decisions of the higher communist party trickling downward through out the system resulting in effectively a dictatorship.

2019-09-14 01:49:51 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Right but he was very focused on continuing the communist revolution outward from Russia

2019-09-14 01:59:04 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Neither do socialists

2019-09-14 01:59:21 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

I have never encountered a socialist who understands the pitfalls of socialism

2019-09-14 02:00:02 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

I know plenty that memorize specific language to sound superior while filling the air with so many labels as to be incomprehensible even to themselves

2019-09-14 02:00:51 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

I find most of my online arguments is spent reading about specific ideologies rather than debating ideas

2019-09-14 02:01:16 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Socialists

2019-09-14 02:01:21 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

I was a bit unclear there sorry

2019-09-14 02:02:17 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Right but a pig is a pig even if you call it a far right authoritarian regime that used socialism but isn't socialist at all

2019-09-14 02:02:29 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Labels don't matter, ideas beyond those labels matter

2019-09-14 02:02:36 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

I can label Fascism whatever the fuck I want

2019-09-14 02:02:58 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Doesn't change what Fascism is and the ideas behind it making it one of the most horrifying political systems in history of mankind

2019-09-14 02:03:23 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Right but even modern socialist ideas can't be enforced through a democratic system

2019-09-14 02:03:33 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

In order to regiment a society like that you need more oomph

2019-09-14 02:03:46 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

And it certainly can't be determined by the majority

2019-09-14 02:04:46 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

When I speak of socialism I don't mean the faux socialist "democratic socialists"

2019-09-14 02:06:00 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

The idea of democratic socialism isn't socialist, it still uses an entirely capitalistic economy as we see in the countries people consider democratic socialist countries

2019-09-14 02:07:58 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

I'm talking about people that self identify as democratic socialists, not the political theory

2019-09-14 02:08:15 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Note I said countries *people consider* to be democratic socialists

2019-09-14 02:09:45 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Incrementalism just makes me think of the frog in the water

2019-09-14 02:11:04 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

The more power the state has, the more susceptible it is to being overtaken by a dictator

2019-09-14 02:11:17 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Or simply making life hell on its citizens

2019-09-14 02:11:33 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

which is why protected rights are necessary to forming a healthy state

2019-09-14 02:12:46 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

I don't know his stance on social media platforms and big tech so I have no idea what to think there

2019-09-14 02:13:19 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Because that defines whether or not he gives a shit about the first ammendment

2019-09-14 02:13:34 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Idk man some of the dem candidates have no policy positions on that subject

2019-09-14 02:13:50 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

or even ones that support corporate censorship

2019-09-14 02:14:26 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Good

2019-09-14 02:14:59 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

He should also appoint someone who can manage the budget after he's done monkey fucking it

2019-09-14 02:19:56 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

And a state funded and run higher education system

2019-09-14 02:21:13 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

you could fix higher education through targeted regulation and restructuring of federal aid money and price capping though

2019-09-14 02:21:39 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Yeah his "Freedom Dividend" is a big policy point for him

2019-09-14 02:21:55 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

I lost interest in Yang when he went full smear politics though

2019-09-14 02:22:31 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

He went on stage and said a whole bunch of dumb shit about trump and how he would love to see him run a mile

2019-09-14 02:31:11 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Ah yes lets give YouTube control of the flow of information

2019-09-14 02:31:13 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Good call

2019-09-14 02:31:57 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Depends on the climate model you use, most of them show human impact at around the industrial revolution

2019-09-14 02:32:16 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

At least extrapolation of the data we have now that is

2019-09-14 02:32:39 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

I need a hard source for that driving thing to believe that

2019-09-14 02:33:00 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

And I don't mean an article, I mean something that has been peer reviewed

2019-09-14 02:33:27 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Oh man

2019-09-14 02:34:17 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

nah bogus climate claims are perpetuated based on something journalists read on twitter

2019-09-14 02:34:23 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Just look at the amazon fire fiasco

2019-09-14 02:35:11 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Honestly they generally do, most journalistic organizations don't even issue retractions when they're straight up wrong

2019-09-14 02:35:36 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

I mean I could come up with 3 or 4 examples off the top of my head

2019-09-14 02:36:16 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

News papers ignoring the firing of rubber bullets into the eyes and throats of yellow vesters being an international example

2019-09-14 02:36:58 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Covington and Amazonian Forest Fires being another 2

2019-09-14 02:37:00 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Hmm

2019-09-14 02:37:12 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Whats a fourth, I may have to actually think about that one for a second

2019-09-14 02:37:21 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Gender Neutral Santa Clause

2019-09-14 02:37:32 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

OH YEAH

2019-09-14 02:37:36 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Russiagate

2019-09-14 02:37:39 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Hmm

2019-09-14 02:37:43 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Pizzagate too

2019-09-14 02:38:24 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

I read an article doomsaying climate disaster by 2023 which didn't even cite a source

2019-09-14 02:38:53 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Another one that actually used a study performed by somebody without a degree or employer who constructed a faulty model from incomplete climate data

2019-09-14 02:39:37 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

I'm not saying they "generally make up stats" I'm saying that you can't rely on them to use stats

2019-09-14 02:40:21 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

"manipulate other people's studies to show things they want to show"

2019-09-14 02:40:28 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

That is what I was responding to

2019-09-14 02:40:31 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Not making up stats

2019-09-14 02:40:50 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

being manipulative or simply not putting in due diligence to source a story

2019-09-14 02:42:09 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Yeah

2019-09-14 02:42:19 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Independend journalists are good

2019-09-14 02:42:24 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

*sometime*

2019-09-14 02:42:28 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

depends on the journalist

2019-09-14 02:47:37 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

lmfao

2019-09-14 02:49:25 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Schizophrenia is a hell of a drug

2019-09-14 02:52:38 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

You're denying basic historical fact dude

2019-09-14 02:52:50 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Historical fact that Nazi's were far right

2019-09-14 02:52:57 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

and I refuse to elaborate further

2019-09-14 02:53:02 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

But I will keep saying that over and over again

2019-09-14 02:54:11 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Yeah this went to shit lmfao

2019-09-14 02:58:33 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Damn he put 3 exclamation points like that means jack shit lmfao

2019-09-14 02:59:11 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

No see

2019-09-14 02:59:13 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

*Jew*

2019-09-14 03:03:00 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Yeah don't try to make this about gay people we're clearly talking about Jews here

2019-09-14 03:03:51 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

Oh is he?

2019-09-14 03:04:03 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

I don't pay attention to him

2019-09-14 03:04:36 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #government]  

I mean I'm just meming right now

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