Message from @The Lemon

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2018-12-04 20:17:42 UTC  

But in sectors like water rail and healthcare nationalization can work better

2018-12-04 20:18:54 UTC  

Nationalization works in some areas, a free market works better in others

2018-12-04 20:19:19 UTC  

No. Governments can limit Monopolies, and that's just fine.
A private Monopoly, can be held accountable for their actions, an entire government can not be so easily.

2018-12-04 20:19:44 UTC  

a Monopoly exsists beacuse its good

2018-12-04 20:19:49 UTC  

when its bad ppl dont use it

2018-12-04 20:19:53 UTC  

and it starts to fail

2018-12-04 20:19:55 UTC  

You can't hold a private monopoly accountable in that situation

2018-12-04 20:20:00 UTC  

Unless you boycott the trains

2018-12-04 20:20:07 UTC  

why not

2018-12-04 20:20:08 UTC  

But in that case millions of commuters can't get around

2018-12-04 20:20:21 UTC  

if the Monopoly is bad ppl will go to other places

2018-12-04 20:20:22 UTC  

Or sue them

2018-12-04 20:20:28 UTC  

Who?

2018-12-04 20:20:35 UTC  

Also what grounds do you have to sue them

2018-12-04 20:20:37 UTC  

Said Monopoly

2018-12-04 20:20:44 UTC  

It's not like they intentionally set up a monopoly

2018-12-04 20:20:48 UTC  

most Monopoly are created beacuse of govement

2018-12-04 20:20:49 UTC  

Its the nature of the rail industry

2018-12-04 20:20:56 UTC  

gov regulations

2018-12-04 20:21:00 UTC  

that limit busnies

2018-12-04 20:21:14 UTC  

Gov regulations can't stop a monopoly in that sector

2018-12-04 20:21:19 UTC  

As I said

2018-12-04 20:21:19 UTC  

Monopoly give the gov a lot of money to stop other busnesis from taking over

2018-12-04 20:21:28 UTC  

exsample - car dealerships

2018-12-04 20:21:30 UTC  

and air ports

2018-12-04 20:21:35 UTC  

YEah

2018-12-04 20:21:37 UTC  

all goverment made Monopoly

2018-12-04 20:21:45 UTC  

in capitalisem that cant exsist

2018-12-04 20:21:50 UTC  

Those are examples where a free market works

2018-12-04 20:21:53 UTC  

cus the gov wont have the power

2018-12-04 20:21:56 UTC  

And nationalization

2018-12-04 20:21:58 UTC  

to opress busniese

2018-12-04 20:21:59 UTC  

But I'm talking about rail

2018-12-04 20:22:03 UTC  

Did you even read what I said

2018-12-04 20:22:17 UTC  

na i was busy making <#508204267631411200>

2018-12-04 20:22:19 UTC  

go check it out

2018-12-04 20:22:22 UTC  

😉

2018-12-04 20:22:28 UTC  

I said nationalization only works in specific scenarios like heathcare and rail

2018-12-05 01:02:07 UTC  

You guys have way too much belief in the free market. Might want to give US history from 1870 to 1910 a look.

2018-12-05 09:48:03 UTC  

Wait @TheNobody You think that a monopoly exists becasue it is good? That's almost never the case, monopolies only exist when businesses drive out competitors, monopolies are always bad. Take Singapore for instance, they have the most free market economy and every field has heaps of competition, competition drives down prices, monopolies allow the supplier to price set, especially if they provide an essential good or service. This happened with Martin Shkreli and the aids medication.

2018-12-05 09:54:03 UTC  

Simply put, the free market has failures, 4 from when I did economics (income inequality: relative and absolute, positive and negative externalities, public goods and common resources and market power.), and it's a governments role to redistribute resources to fix the 4 failures.