Prove it

No he doesn’t. I’ve never received any demands or orders from the pope

He doesn’t really have any power

omg

@Pelth Bible wasn’t written by the pope

It was curated by a council

He didn’t do the work

@run 110 minutes lose 110 pounds declarations on faith and morals are not in conflict with the state

Unless you live in China

Or North Korea

Yes

As long as the state doesn’t go contrary to God’s laws

Unless you live in an evil state

Like China

Then they do

Ofc the Nazis did

They hated all religions

Nazis were satanists

That’s why they hated Catholics

Yes they were

No

Nationalism is nothing like religion

Real nationalism

Not national socialism

Yes it is

Clearly you don’t have healthy nationalism

Blind loyalty to the government is not nationalism

That’s just stupidity

faith in the people =\ faith in the government

Government is imperfect

It can be corrupted

Or seized

@Pelth yes it does

@run 110 minutes lose 110 pounds yes, if you can

Chinese people already tried. Then got run over by tanks.

America was founded on Judeo-Christian values

Read the Declaration of Independence and Constitution

No. It was important to them to separate church and state for the protection of the church

Before America church and state were the same in some colonies

@run 110 minutes lose 110 pounds Judeo-Christian is the common term

If you don’t like it complain to the world

It’s used by most people

The ethics came from ancient Judaism

Ten Commandments

Yes they did

I just said

The whole freaking Old Testament

Yes

Noooooooooo

Omg

The New Testament fulfills the Old

It doesn’t replace it

Omg no

According to the church only God determines who goes to hell

“Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets; I have come not to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matt. 5:17-19) @run 110 minutes lose 110 pounds

The answer is both

Everyone has a chance at heaven

According to the Catholic Church

@Pelth moral relativism, I see....

Did he tell you that?

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*unless someday they recover from these errors*

Key words

So all Jews don’t go to hell

All Jews who reject Jesus up to judgement go to hell

Well maybe

Anyone who rejects Jesus totally goes to hell

You can’t reject God and go to heaven

@Pelth Nazi Germany and the USSR were successful for a time. But they were not right.

> I only care about what I accomplish here on earth
@Pelth
And there is your mistake

Look up Pascal’s Wager

Lol

Duty to what

Why?

A meteor could strike and hit them any second

You couldn’t stop it

All your effort would be wasted

Same can be said for any country

What’s the end goal though

You just live die, and then that’s it?

Seems rather purposeless to me

@Pelth it sounds like you think nothingness is your calling

Your time on earth is short- and irrelevant if there’s no afterlife

If God is real your life on earth takes on real meaning

Not literally

Not their soul

Not their intelligence

Not their memory

Unless they’ve possessed you somehow

Which would mean souls live on after death

So you believe in reincarnation?

Who determines the logic of the cosmos?

Certainly not humanity

We know basically nothing

If we build a death star we won’t have to worry about anything (except exhaust ports)

vote for trump

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Trump is everything

We are all trump

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