it's not much different at all

Yes it is

nope

Clearly you don’t have healthy nationalism

Blind loyalty to the government is not nationalism

That’s just stupidity

faith in the nation

faith in your people

faith in the people =\ faith in the government

the government is for the people

Government is imperfect

It can be corrupted

Or seized

doesn't matter

this convo

I can't take a side

AAAAAAAAAH

@Pelth yes it does

@Lord of the Nazgûl if it's imperfect make it better

@Pelth Aren't you a pagan

@run 110 minutes lose 110 pounds yes, if you can

i'm not really anything in particular

Chinese people already tried. Then got run over by tanks.

i'm more of a nationalist than anything

I feel like America is a concept grounded in reality

something i can get behind

America was founded on Judeo-Christian values

Read the Declaration of Independence and Constitution

the values themselves aren't that bad

it was important to the founding fathers for things to remain at least somewhat secular

No. It was important to them to separate church and state for the protection of the church

no

Before America church and state were the same in some colonies

>judeo-christian

don't forget that a lot of people that came to america were fleeing their lives of persecution under the catholic church

get out of here with the kike shit

@Lord of the Nazgûl

@run 110 minutes lose 110 pounds Judeo-Christian is the common term

If you don’t like it complain to the world

It has nothing to do with Jews

It's an inaccurate term