Message from @Lord of the Nazgûl

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2020-04-20 07:33:58 UTC  

Unless you live in China

2020-04-20 07:34:02 UTC  

Or North Korea

2020-04-20 07:34:22 UTC  

If the state makes you do immoral things you should refuse it

2020-04-20 07:34:35 UTC  

But following the state is something that the Church supports

2020-04-20 07:34:37 UTC  

and commands

2020-04-20 07:34:44 UTC  

Yes

2020-04-20 07:34:51 UTC  

render unto caesar that which is unto Caesar etc

2020-04-20 07:34:56 UTC  

As long as the state doesn’t go contrary to God’s laws

2020-04-20 07:34:59 UTC  

as long as those orders do not conflict with the church

2020-04-20 07:35:18 UTC  

but they often will

2020-04-20 07:35:37 UTC  

most of the time they don't

2020-04-20 07:35:43 UTC  

~~unless it's in modern times~~

2020-04-20 07:35:49 UTC  

Unless you live in an evil state

2020-04-20 07:35:52 UTC  

Like China

2020-04-20 07:35:55 UTC  

the germans had a lot of issues with catholics

2020-04-20 07:35:55 UTC  

Then they do

2020-04-20 07:35:57 UTC  

in ww2

2020-04-20 07:36:15 UTC  

Ofc the Nazis did

2020-04-20 07:36:31 UTC  

true nationalism is somewhat incompatible with religion

2020-04-20 07:36:31 UTC  

They hated all religions

2020-04-20 07:36:45 UTC  

Nazis were satanists

2020-04-20 07:36:54 UTC  

no they weren't

2020-04-20 07:36:59 UTC  

That’s why they hated Catholics

2020-04-20 07:37:04 UTC  

Yes they were

2020-04-20 07:37:05 UTC  

The whole issue from the Church's perspective was basically that Hitler was messing with Catholic schools

2020-04-20 07:37:32 UTC  

in practical terms anyways

2020-04-20 07:38:06 UTC  

Nationalism is a more grounded evolution of traditional religion

2020-04-20 07:38:41 UTC  

No

2020-04-20 07:38:42 UTC  

much healthier in my opinion

2020-04-20 07:38:55 UTC  

Nationalism is nothing like religion

2020-04-20 07:39:04 UTC  

Real nationalism

2020-04-20 07:39:13 UTC  

Not national socialism

2020-04-20 07:39:22 UTC  

it's not much different at all

2020-04-20 07:39:36 UTC  

Yes it is

2020-04-20 07:39:38 UTC  

nope

2020-04-20 07:39:44 UTC  

Clearly you don’t have healthy nationalism

2020-04-20 07:39:55 UTC  

Blind loyalty to the government is not nationalism

2020-04-20 07:40:04 UTC  

That’s just stupidity

2020-04-20 07:40:08 UTC  

faith in the nation

2020-04-20 07:40:34 UTC  

faith in your people

2020-04-20 07:40:49 UTC  

faith in the people =\ faith in the government