No, MRAs fall flat on their advocacy because they expect to cause change through sympathy for men. Never going to happen.

I can answer the TFM thing. His running gag is identifying as a "Masculine presenting transgender lesbian," or essentially a man with mucho oppression points.

No other platform has the viewer base to support a proper channel.

Not even about the money. Let's say you spend hours making a 20 minute video that 3 people see. Is that impact worth your investment?

Oh man, this guy.

Not in any western country.

@Happy Humble Hermit Monster Hunter World?

@Happy Humble Hermit Well, hit me up when you get into it. Finished the campaign solo twice now. Could use some reliable pals >.>

Stop you there.

"Private" or not you're tying your life to another person.

Will you be the primary caregiver?

Then get the kid and don't get married.

Look, you had me up until you said marriage. What does any of this have to do with a woman?

OK. So go to another country, surrogate, ditch the bitch.

Sounds like a contract.

Part 1 is where we're stuck. How do you get the kid *without* her parental rights? Are we talking about a machine womb?

Or artificial insemination?

Okay, I'm following you. You have your kid, you're the only legal parent, etc. But if you want to live in a western country you'd better not bring another woman into the picture.

That kid are you money is gone.

@Tommy WizOh There is something to be said for genetic legacy, whatever that's worth.

The courts can do something about it.

The kid costs more than $20k in time.

I'm all for you having this option and maybe it'd even work. But most MGTOW wouldn't take the risk.

See, you keep coming back to the woman. "On her best behavior" isn't good enough.

If you live in the fucking desert.

Yes you do. If you've ever lived together, supported the child together, or get *accused* of domestic abuse / violence you're fucked.

@Flushtater Respectfully disagree.

@Flushtater That's better.

@metan It's viable for very few MGTOW. How many guys do you know who can drop everything and go to another country?

Something about this screams denial.

"Bargaining," specifically.

Bargaining is a reference to the 5 stages of grief. Like if you lost a loved one.

It exists because it serves women's purposes.

If that's your path then take it. You don't need our permission. But I'm telling you now that most MGTOW will not do this.

^

Every man that does this increases the price because the available services (ie available women) become rarer.

I don't have to marry to have a kid anyway.

People get married to lock down a sexual partner.

We all know that every man thinks he has a unicorn.

It's better than marriage but not better than celibacy.

In all honesty I refuse to bring a child into this world in the current conditions.

@metan Yep.

Women sell their eggs now.

Not commonly, sure. But it's a thing.

Alternative is restoring the bond between responsiblity and authority.

Woman wants to have 6 kids? She'd better find a way to feed them. Man provides for the family? He'd better have actionable authority.

But yeah, we are well beyond that...

Baby steps.

Even in America a single mother can nearly break the average wage on welfare and benefits alone.

"In the best interest of the child."

Government takes what it can from the father (if identified).

Plus social benefits like food stamps.

America is cucked too. Don't come crying to big papa free land...

Oops, I can't send the link here. Who wants it?

@metan The "experience" of booze and parties.

But really it's about snagging that man about to finish up his degree and get better pay.

Yeah, and the man is expected to pay for it.

@metan, sending you a link. You want it too Tommy?

JP? Men need to be more responsible, I imagine.

Can't link it here, blocked.

List of Chicago benefits to single mothers.

Pass.

Oops.

And it's gone!

Anyone want to hunt massive monsters with oversized weapons and talk about shit?

@Salsacookies PC.

@Salsacookies The double tempered Bazel is where I learned to appreciate that piece of shit.

Did as much damage to each other as my puny longsword.

Now I hunt them with bow. Learned my lesson 😛