Existence is identity

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2018-10-31 18:01:36 UTC [Subverse #general]  

funny thing kant was a very bitter person when he died

2018-10-31 18:02:02 UTC [Subverse #general]  

thats a gay way to say it but I guess

2018-10-31 18:02:36 UTC [Subverse #general]  

people being self interested isnt bad

2018-10-31 18:03:22 UTC [Subverse #general]  

your selfishness you see is what Nietzsche proposed

2018-10-31 18:03:32 UTC [Subverse #general]  

no its gay in thats not whats important

2018-10-31 18:03:41 UTC [Subverse #general]  

us surviving isnt important

2018-10-31 18:04:02 UTC [Subverse #general]  

^

2018-10-31 18:04:07 UTC [Subverse #general]  

first smart thing you said

2018-10-31 18:04:20 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@Kali Yuga something you hold that gives you pleasure

2018-10-31 18:04:34 UTC [Subverse #general]  

long term pleasure that is

2018-10-31 18:05:01 UTC [Subverse #general]  

its what it is the complexity doesnt matter

2018-10-31 18:05:27 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

sargon is retarded change my mind

2018-10-31 18:06:37 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@Kali Yuga true but no need to make it more complex I gave you the definition

2018-10-31 18:06:54 UTC [Subverse #general]  

politics dont matter

2018-10-31 18:07:20 UTC [Subverse #general]  

philosophy is essential

2018-10-31 18:07:29 UTC [Subverse #general]  

politics barely matter compared to ideas

2018-10-31 18:07:46 UTC [Subverse #general]  

plus politics is a product of said idea

2018-10-31 18:08:21 UTC [Subverse #general]  

to say I love you you must be able to say I

2018-10-31 18:09:10 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

@Blackhawk342 hes extremely inconsistent and hops between individualism and collectivism whenever he is challenged

2018-10-31 18:10:09 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

he also calls for government regulation when he says he wants property rights to be protected

2018-10-31 18:10:21 UTC [Subverse #general]  

eww sperging

2018-10-31 18:12:46 UTC [Subverse #general]  

did this guy dip when I said politics arent essential

2018-10-31 18:12:57 UTC [Subverse #general]  

kek

2018-10-31 18:13:50 UTC [Subverse #general]  

how politics arent essential

2018-10-31 18:14:16 UTC [Subverse #general]  

oh

2018-10-31 18:14:25 UTC [Subverse #general]  
2018-10-31 18:14:34 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I dont pay attention

2018-10-31 18:14:48 UTC [Subverse #general]  

probably because of my adhd

2018-10-31 18:15:20 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

@Beemann no he called for regulating facebook

2018-10-31 18:15:34 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

let me find the video again

2018-10-31 18:16:22 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

@Beemann its till inconsistent

2018-10-31 18:16:38 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

freedom of association of your property trumps speech

2018-10-31 18:16:58 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

politics gey

2018-10-31 18:17:22 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

political ideologies are really vague

2018-10-31 18:18:04 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

what do you mean by infrastructure

2018-10-31 18:19:06 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

is the infrastructure private property

2018-10-31 18:19:23 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

if its is it would be inconsistent to regulate it

2018-10-31 18:20:01 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

if not now its more confusing because government shouldnt own property

2018-10-31 18:21:04 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

thats because of government

2018-10-31 18:21:24 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

no its not

2018-10-31 18:21:41 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

its private property so it should be protected by its rights

2018-10-31 18:21:57 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

no matter how big the market is just placing a value

2018-10-31 18:22:29 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

it would be inconsistent to use force on it

2018-10-31 18:22:45 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

no

2018-10-31 18:23:29 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

any monopoly in history has failed except by state

2018-10-31 18:24:13 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

just let the market value things

2018-10-31 18:24:25 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

stop trying to violate ones rights

2018-10-31 18:24:32 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

thats bad

2018-10-31 18:24:44 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

im not a statist

2018-10-31 18:25:11 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

government should only use force when rights are being violated

2018-10-31 18:25:29 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

it should protect not infringe

2018-10-31 18:26:24 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

but thats not what sargons saying and as long as governments not involved im fine with that

2018-10-31 18:26:57 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

well I agree

2018-10-31 18:27:17 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

yes its the market speaking

2018-10-31 18:27:30 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

sure and we need to stop government

2018-10-31 18:28:29 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

thats fine as long as they dont use government to do that

2018-10-31 18:28:38 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

*aslong

2018-10-31 18:29:49 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

its not what about benefits people its about being consistent and protecting rights as a whole and a individual level

2018-10-31 18:30:06 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

well they shouldnt

2018-10-31 18:30:11 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

I already said this

2018-10-31 18:30:28 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

im not justifying what the government does

2018-10-31 18:30:52 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

the law doesnt speak for me

2018-10-31 18:31:15 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

my ideas are separate from illegal = wrong

2018-10-31 18:31:58 UTC [Subverse #general]  

nice

2018-10-31 18:32:23 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

they should be able to do that anyway

2018-10-31 18:32:54 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

ban people even for no reason unless the contract states other wise

2018-10-31 18:33:38 UTC [Subverse #general]  

mfw you all are npcs

2018-10-31 18:34:49 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

yes

2018-10-31 18:35:02 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

its their property

2018-10-31 18:35:15 UTC [Subverse #general]  

read Ayn Rand

2018-10-31 18:35:22 UTC [Subverse #general]  

๐Ÿคฃ

2018-10-31 18:36:15 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Ideas are the motivators of life

2018-10-31 18:36:38 UTC [Subverse #general]  

*dab*

2018-10-31 18:38:12 UTC [Subverse #general]  
2018-10-31 18:39:12 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

I guess

2018-10-31 18:39:44 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

im a Laissez-faire capitalist

2018-10-31 18:40:17 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

thats the result of collectivism

2018-10-31 18:41:38 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

well im talking about philisophy

2018-10-31 18:42:16 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@Beemann what his epistemology?

2018-10-31 18:42:23 UTC [Subverse #general]  

*was

2018-10-31 18:43:02 UTC [Subverse #general]  

his epistemology?

2018-10-31 18:44:10 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

lul

2018-10-31 18:44:21 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

internet bill of rights is just property rights

2018-10-31 18:44:45 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@Beemann did they have a defined philosophy or just politics

2018-10-31 18:45:08 UTC [Subverse #general]  

how man should live is more important than what system should man live in

2018-10-31 18:46:47 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@Beemann which values

2018-10-31 18:47:19 UTC [Subverse #general]  

hes seems pretty shallow focusing on the surface which is politics

2018-10-31 18:47:43 UTC [Subverse #general]  

thats not the western values

2018-10-31 18:47:56 UTC [Subverse #general]  

yes

2018-10-31 18:48:19 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

lul

2018-10-31 18:50:08 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@Beemann let me tell you what the westerns valued that valued happiness and pursuit of said happiness they valued reason as our means to know reality they valued the right of man to be free

2018-10-31 18:51:03 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Ayn Rand expanded mostly on this it seems and she tied it all together and maybe them for consistent using reason as a basis for her philosophy

2018-10-31 18:51:13 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@Beemann freedom comes from philisophy

2018-10-31 18:51:26 UTC [Subverse #general]  

a man living for others is not free

2018-10-31 18:51:58 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

@tritrium how you still wanna violate property rights

2018-10-31 18:52:51 UTC [Subverse #general]  

when you choose to live for others you sacrifice your freedom

2018-10-31 18:53:18 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

regulating the internet just makes thing worse even if we did it now

2018-10-31 18:53:29 UTC [Subverse #general]  
2018-10-31 18:53:42 UTC [Subverse #general]  

did you compare her to Nietzsche

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