I've just heard about this place on /pol/ 😐

nah tnx, not fan of feudalism 😛

am I a tankie if I claim, that real socialisms were not that bad and soviet union wasn't that bad and that they had some degree of inner democracy 😐

damn 😦 and if I support-ed lawful intervention! in Afghanistan and Prague Spring? what makes me that? super tankie? 😐

I would disagree. What are you, troll from pol? For a brief sec. I thought to treat you seriously 😄

btw it always worked, but it wasn't perfect - since it is real life and not some kind of imaginary wonderland

would disagree, and SU is proof that it can work. You are entitled to your opinion, which is totally wrong #justsaying

and I do not believe that I can change your or any else opinion in debate - and even if I did, it is like drop of water in ocean - hence not even trying.

Indeed it was socialist, like NK is.

that was harsh nerd 😐

btw ben, nerd what is your pol leaning?

hey guys, I have noticed we do not have Italian section - btw what is going in Italy? I have noticed that pol is in delirium over things there

no thanks 😐

I'll just copy paste this: hey guys, I have noticed we do not have Italian section - btw what is going in Italy? I have noticed that pol is in delirium over things there

idk why would one even bother with nazbols, anarcho caps. They are literary few individuals - no movment, no nothing. 😐 Imo, they are just waste of time.

I mean, why even indulge them in conversation - to feel them being relevant? I seriously do not understand :/

and I mean, does left still belives that you can change the world by having better arguments? 😐

look at this bullshit you are talking here wtf x)

@RobotWizard hey, could you explain to me Sex and Gender are different things. It is something I really have hard to grasp. Seriously asking.

hmm

how so? 😐

I mean, how can genders be made up?

ok I understand that, gender roles change dramatically. especialy with industralization etc. But still, some things are considered as female roles across cultures? like cooking, raising kids etc. ?

and it is closly related to biological sex

I mean, I aint anthropol. expert. But are not male and female gender/sex from birth of a man? and lately we got those new gender roles

I still genuinely don't get those things with gender 😦

ok I think I kinda get it x)

sec

sorry for interputing again, and sorry for late reply, I think I get it about gender roels, but isn't quite liberal (and wrong) position to claim that individual can freely choose its gender? Isn't that gender is cleary socialy given to the individual (like value on market is socially given - when interaction with market or smth) and it is closley related to its biological sex (what can individual do in society to be productive member of its society). We must agree that gender roles serve some kind of purpose or they would not exist.

mehh, In general I think that left is giving too much thought and energy into all that gender thing - at least in the west.

btw nerd, nasrmg, robo, are you also politically active or socially in your environment? #just interested

but why 😐

sorry, but shame on you

it is sin for socialist not to be active 😐

you all should be slaped

ok then socialy active - squating organsing some shit

but it is changing 😐 or am I browsing too much pol

I mean, look at Italy 😐

it scares shit out of me...or is it blown out of proportions by media?

who want people to vote for liberal parties?

#conspiracy

I have noticed we do not have italy section, how so?

Robo you seems to be comp wizard

how do I throttle down speed of google chrome

google does not help me

no no, not ram, download speed to throttle down

😐

I have 1mbs line

I want to limit it to 250

but just browser

is it possible

250kbs

tried that one, there is no drop down menu 😐

or i'm a newb

nvm

I found drop down menu

😄

thanks for help 😄

ummm @RobotWizard I'm kinda secretive 😄 I'm kinda nerd, but somehow politically/socially active. Used to be tankie, nowdays not sure anymore what I am 😐

but still with tankie tendecies

and I'm from western europe

nerd? You too? as robo or as me?

hehe

11:45 here

am

I'm gamer and stuff, but I do not feel confotable talking behind keyboard - at least about my personal and intimate stuff

😄

😄

I kinda don't care about cia and stuff. It would matter if I would secretily conspire with my commrades to overthrow my state...oh wait, thats we do on daily basis 😐

😄

I have no idea what doxxing is )

why would someone be ashamed of their political incinations 😐 - i'm all for it

you think nerd? well depends where are you from

I guess living in somehow more liberal enviroment won't do much

california

x)

at least they are not conservative nutjobs 😄

robo you are for disarming people?

nerd, robo, you two anarchist?

damn, whats so interesting about anarchism? and arent you like worried - I don't see anarchsit revolution comming any sooner 😐

I do know that goals are pretty much same, but way to achieve those goals are radically different to each ideology.

I still don't get diffrences betwen stalin trot 😐

in my humble opinion, trotsky was just butthurt on stalin winning party struggle 😛

I honestly do not believe it would be any different if would trotsky win in party struggle

then we would have stalin writing crique of trotsky

😄

and being emigree

lol

well, they were all product of the those times, and harldy anyone can be different

I mean, being all secrative due tsarist regime, oganising in tight circles etc.

😄

but, tbh their way of running things worked (vanguard party) - they successfully have rid of tsar, nationalised economy and tried socialism to be implemented.

I mean, experiment of social-democracy (old) has failed and it did not gave results (many of them have become liberal parties) as well euro-commies

x)

true. could not agree more

so should we embrace vanguard party, since it is almost only thing that worked 😛

and reject all other failed experminets

including....anarchism 😛

hehehe

well everyone had that idea, but it did not work