Message from @Vlad

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2018-02-27 09:52:16 UTC  

Yeah I think the left needs to take it on

2018-02-27 09:52:21 UTC  

and politicise it

2018-02-27 09:52:23 UTC  

but that's not getitng to the roots

2018-02-27 09:52:34 UTC  

like many other issues of the day its a half hearted response

2018-02-27 09:53:12 UTC  

We have to do away with the idea that it can ever be a hard science

2018-02-27 09:53:19 UTC  

We don't need to get anyone to admit to being mentally ill

2018-02-27 09:53:29 UTC  

but honest genuine compassion on the issue might reach some

2018-02-27 09:54:00 UTC  

If you say we need better mental health care I'm sure you could get republicans to agree

2018-02-27 09:54:10 UTC  

Yeah I mean I see a therapist because my childhood was difficult and i responded to that lack of control with defense mechanisms that did more to alienate people

2018-02-27 09:54:37 UTC  

And after a year or so i was able to really work through a lot of it

2018-02-27 09:54:54 UTC  

like thinking a girl could fix all my problems and that my opinions were important

2018-02-27 09:55:13 UTC  

being humble in real life

2018-02-27 09:55:16 UTC  

is liberating

2018-02-27 09:55:56 UTC  

dude honestly talking about this stuff kind of helps

2018-02-27 09:56:19 UTC  

like I'm honestly not lying in saying that I should look into some conselling

2018-02-27 09:56:20 UTC  

Yeah I try and be as honest about it as i can

2018-02-27 09:56:31 UTC  

i just don't know how to deal with how bleak reality

2018-02-27 09:56:35 UTC  

is

2018-02-27 09:56:44 UTC  

Im just lucky my ex was like "you had a fucking brutal time growing up you need to talk about it"

2018-02-27 09:56:48 UTC  

and i didnt believe her for ages

2018-02-27 09:56:52 UTC  

sorry for interputing again, and sorry for late reply, I think I get it about gender roels, but isn't quite liberal (and wrong) position to claim that individual can freely choose its gender? Isn't that gender is cleary socialy given to the individual (like value on market is socially given - when interaction with market or smth) and it is closley related to its biological sex (what can individual do in society to be productive member of its society). We must agree that gender roles serve some kind of purpose or they would not exist.

2018-02-27 09:57:13 UTC  

I dont think people really choose it

2018-02-27 09:57:39 UTC  

Yeah i agree with the deterministic view there

2018-02-27 09:57:56 UTC  

its about getting people to change there perspectives about what they define as male and female

2018-02-27 09:58:07 UTC  

and showing how arbitrary and unjustified it is

2018-02-27 09:58:33 UTC  

and also I mean it'd help if people just generally calmed down about it

2018-02-27 09:58:45 UTC  

not to mention that it is impossible to maintain a 100% productive society

2018-02-27 09:59:18 UTC  

like not everyone can produce physical tangible goods with value based on our limited resources

2018-02-27 09:59:45 UTC  

you're also right though people take this way to seriously

2018-02-27 09:59:52 UTC  

mehh, In general I think that left is giving too much thought and energy into all that gender thing - at least in the west.

2018-02-27 09:59:58 UTC  

thats why people listen to JBP and his things on the pronoun police

2018-02-27 10:00:12 UTC  

Yeah policing language is silly

2018-02-27 10:00:26 UTC  

shaming people for not knowing any better is even sillier

2018-02-27 10:00:40 UTC  

I think its just a matter of being polite

2018-02-27 10:00:56 UTC  

look language doesn't have to be policed we can all look the nazi in the face and call him a shithead when he spews his bullshit

2018-02-27 10:01:14 UTC  

or agree to to kick him and lie to the cops

2018-02-27 10:01:29 UTC  

no one is arguing that you get the bullet if you slip up on pronouns once

2018-02-27 10:01:34 UTC  

that's such shit

2018-02-27 10:01:42 UTC  

nah man

2018-02-27 10:01:56 UTC  

we weare all about pronoun police and trans nkvd guards

2018-02-27 10:01:59 UTC  

for the gulags