Message from @Vlad

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2018-02-27 11:08:36 UTC  

it pretty much stems back to the paris commune

2018-02-27 11:08:53 UTC  

they are just two different ways of implementing an idea

2018-02-27 11:09:35 UTC  

Anarchism strongly rejects vanguardism for example

2018-02-27 11:09:47 UTC  

as it is inherently authoritarian

2018-02-27 11:10:25 UTC  

I do know that goals are pretty much same, but way to achieve those goals are radically different to each ideology.

2018-02-27 11:10:37 UTC  

sure

2018-02-27 11:11:00 UTC  

Marxism isn't inherently authoritarian

2018-02-27 11:11:16 UTC  

but Tankies love that shit

2018-02-27 11:11:45 UTC  

I was a trotskyist before

2018-02-27 11:12:05 UTC  

I still don't get diffrences betwen stalin trot 😐

2018-02-27 11:12:11 UTC  

posadism <:blobsmirk:396521731185180684>

2018-02-27 11:13:27 UTC  

pretty much trotskyism is a reaction to stalins bureaucracy

2018-02-27 11:13:46 UTC  

this is a gross simplification

2018-02-27 11:14:07 UTC  

in my humble opinion, trotsky was just butthurt on stalin winning party struggle 😛

2018-02-27 11:14:14 UTC  

yup

2018-02-27 11:14:34 UTC  

I honestly do not believe it would be any different if would trotsky win in party struggle

2018-02-27 11:14:49 UTC  

then we would have stalin writing crique of trotsky

2018-02-27 11:14:50 UTC  

😄

2018-02-27 11:14:58 UTC  

and being emigree

2018-02-27 11:15:18 UTC  

lol

2018-02-27 11:15:46 UTC  

probably not

2018-02-27 11:15:50 UTC  

sorry I mean

2018-02-27 11:15:55 UTC  

thats probably true

2018-02-27 11:16:06 UTC  

lenin was a bit of shit as well

2018-02-27 11:16:23 UTC  

and trotsky certainly worked with him

2018-02-27 11:16:57 UTC  

well, they were all product of the those times, and harldy anyone can be different

2018-02-27 11:17:23 UTC  

for sure

2018-02-27 11:17:25 UTC  

I mean, being all secrative due tsarist regime, oganising in tight circles etc.

2018-02-27 11:17:46 UTC  

burn your heroes honestly

2018-02-27 11:17:58 UTC  

or at least don't worship them

2018-02-27 11:18:30 UTC  

like if they die don't preserve their body in a glass coffin for everyone to see just so you can maintain a cult of personality around him

2018-02-27 11:18:54 UTC  

😄

2018-02-27 11:19:23 UTC  

Idolatry is a cancer

2018-02-27 11:19:51 UTC  

Yes because when I say help my fellow human beings what I'm really saying is build a giant fucking statue of me and worship me

2018-02-27 11:19:53 UTC  

but, tbh their way of running things worked (vanguard party) - they successfully have rid of tsar, nationalised economy and tried socialism to be implemented.

2018-02-27 11:20:09 UTC  

Life of Brian is Jesus' biography

2018-02-27 11:21:02 UTC  

I mean, experiment of social-democracy (old) has failed and it did not gave results (many of them have become liberal parties) as well euro-commies

2018-02-27 11:21:12 UTC  

pretty much

2018-02-27 11:21:14 UTC  

and Muhammeds

2018-02-27 11:21:18 UTC  

look at the UK labor party under Blair