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And your business or whatever you call it would operate itself, send a representative to a local trade union, which would coordinate the economy on a local level, which would then send a representative to the syndicate to organize the economy on an even larger scale, which would then send a representative to the Bourse du Travail which consists of syndicates working together on the basis of mutual consent

So your union would represent something like a small town, your Syndicate would operate something like a state, and the bourse du travail would operate the nation, only instead of the national level having the final say/authority it's the people

Something like this

You can come together as a group to form a business-like entity

But undemocratic private ownership is precisely what this system seeks to abolish

And replace

Well if it works out how Catalonia did, no one would be willing to work for you

Because why would you work under the economic equivalent of a dictatorship when there's a shiny new democracy across the street

Not only would you then have a say in the business your income and possibly your life depends on, but you'd also be able to directly advocate for workers rights and your needs as workers

Just look at how effective things like unions are at advancing worker rights and pay

Hold on there's one more

At least to me there seems to be a very strong correlation between the strength of unions and inequality

The workers create capital, the CEO takes credit for it

Because those ceos make 300-500x as much as their workers on average

Hold on I've got another chart

The value exists, its just not going to the workers

The workers are creating much more value but since the 70s haven't received much compensation for it

(2nd graph shows that they're creating more value, 1st graph shows that they aren't getting shite for it)

So what do you suggest doing? The gold standard?

...because I've got another graph for that 😂

Yas boi you get it

Well that and the fact that gold isn't extracted nearly fast enough to keep up with economic growth so the gold standard would be in a constant state on deflation

Of deflation*

Even then that might result in pretty bad inflation/deflation

Not to mention how unstable markets are

Me graphs

So while, in this case, the price of milk in USD has been inflating at a fairly slow but steady rate, the price of milk in Troy ounces of gold is rapidly deflating and was rapidly inflating prior to 2002

You can artificially create deflation and inflation with a fiat currency, but with something like a gold standard it all depends on the markets

Or the people who extract the gold

Economic politics 😎

I responded to yer question @Deleted User in case ya didn't see

Oh wait

Nvm

Oh jeez

Innovation had NI hung to do with it

Nothing***

No it actually didn't the Soviet Union collapsed due to capitalist reforms and a communist coup not a lack of innovation

And the rest collapsed because the soviets didn't back them up

And then his argues that the soviets weren't even communists https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/emma-goldman-there-is-no-communism-in-russia

Anarcho syndicalist

Look it up

Do five minutes of research

It's literally just political issues

Marxism Leninism

Which diverted heavily from traditionally socialist values

Thank yeh

And then the coup fell apart politically, and Gorbachev forced the dissolution of the Soviet union

@Deleted User democracy and worker ownership primarily @Governor Mitt Romney

Yes

You deserve life

"Ace ANARCHIST"

cox is a fashy and aeon is a libertarian

I'm an anarcho syndicalist and Kropotkin I'm assuming is an anarcho communist

And anarcho Syndicalism is so close to anarcho communism that you might as well group them together so you're really just debating left wing anarchists

Well yes people don't need to have a gun pointed in their face to do the right thing

And if worse came to worse the individual could point a gun at another individual

Read mutual aid by Kropotkin

All life tends towards community and selflessness

CNT FAI

you've been debunked 😎

I can literally debunk half your arguments with the CNT FAI tho so...

Not really

No it doesnt

Omg

If you want to own a business no one will work for you because they prefer a democratic workplace

If you want to form a business you can ask a bunch of guys if they'll run it with you

Simp,e

Yes it is tho?

CNT fai

Literally exactly what happened there

That's anecdotal

That proves nothing that's just a quote

I've been spamming empirical evidence and historical examples

I mean if you can back it up yeah

But I can prove you wrong in like three charts

Scroll up I spammed a shit ton

I explained them earlier

Reagan's bitched wanted to see them because he was too lazy to scroll up

Bitch*

Businesses are dictatorships

Without the workers none of that could happen

Without the workers there would be no cars, no roads, no factories, no shops, no consumers

Nada

Nothing

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