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And your business or whatever you call it would operate itself, send a representative to a local trade union, which would coordinate the economy on a local level, which would then send a representative to the syndicate to organize the economy on an even larger scale, which would then send a representative to the Bourse du Travail which consists of syndicates working together on the basis of mutual consent
So your union would represent something like a small town, your Syndicate would operate something like a state, and the bourse du travail would operate the nation, only instead of the national level having the final say/authority it's the people
Something like this
You can come together as a group to form a business-like entity
But undemocratic private ownership is precisely what this system seeks to abolish
And replace
Well if it works out how Catalonia did, no one would be willing to work for you
Because why would you work under the economic equivalent of a dictatorship when there's a shiny new democracy across the street
Not only would you then have a say in the business your income and possibly your life depends on, but you'd also be able to directly advocate for workers rights and your needs as workers
Just look at how effective things like unions are at advancing worker rights and pay
Hold on there's one more
At least to me there seems to be a very strong correlation between the strength of unions and inequality
The workers create capital, the CEO takes credit for it
Because those ceos make 300-500x as much as their workers on average
Hold on I've got another chart
The value exists, its just not going to the workers
The workers are creating much more value but since the 70s haven't received much compensation for it
(2nd graph shows that they're creating more value, 1st graph shows that they aren't getting shite for it)
So what do you suggest doing? The gold standard?
...because I've got another graph for that 😂
Yas boi you get it
Well that and the fact that gold isn't extracted nearly fast enough to keep up with economic growth so the gold standard would be in a constant state on deflation
Of deflation*
Even then that might result in pretty bad inflation/deflation
Not to mention how unstable markets are
Me graphs
So while, in this case, the price of milk in USD has been inflating at a fairly slow but steady rate, the price of milk in Troy ounces of gold is rapidly deflating and was rapidly inflating prior to 2002
You can artificially create deflation and inflation with a fiat currency, but with something like a gold standard it all depends on the markets
Or the people who extract the gold
Economic politics 😎
I responded to yer question @Deleted User in case ya didn't see
Oh wait
Nvm
Oh jeez
Innovation had NI hung to do with it
Nothing***
No it actually didn't the Soviet Union collapsed due to capitalist reforms and a communist coup not a lack of innovation
And the rest collapsed because the soviets didn't back them up
And then his argues that the soviets weren't even communists https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/emma-goldman-there-is-no-communism-in-russia
Anarcho syndicalist
Look it up
Do five minutes of research
It's literally just political issues
Marxism Leninism
Which diverted heavily from traditionally socialist values
^^
Thank yeh
And then the coup fell apart politically, and Gorbachev forced the dissolution of the Soviet union
@Deleted User democracy and worker ownership primarily @Governor Mitt Romney
Yes
You deserve life
"Ace ANARCHIST"
cox is a fashy and aeon is a libertarian
I'm an anarcho syndicalist and Kropotkin I'm assuming is an anarcho communist
And anarcho Syndicalism is so close to anarcho communism that you might as well group them together so you're really just debating left wing anarchists
Well yes people don't need to have a gun pointed in their face to do the right thing
And if worse came to worse the individual could point a gun at another individual
Read mutual aid by Kropotkin
All life tends towards community and selflessness
CNT FAI
you've been debunked 😎
I can literally debunk half your arguments with the CNT FAI tho so...
Not really
No it doesnt
No
Omg
If you want to own a business no one will work for you because they prefer a democratic workplace
If you want to form a business you can ask a bunch of guys if they'll run it with you
Simp,e
Yes it is tho?
CNT fai
Literally exactly what happened there
That's anecdotal
That proves nothing that's just a quote
I've been spamming empirical evidence and historical examples
I mean if you can back it up yeah
But I can prove you wrong in like three charts
Scroll up I spammed a shit ton
I explained them earlier
Reagan's bitched wanted to see them because he was too lazy to scroll up
Bitch*
Businesses are dictatorships
Without the workers none of that could happen
Without the workers there would be no cars, no roads, no factories, no shops, no consumers
Nada
Nothing
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