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2018-12-17 17:06:45 UTC

No autism?

2018-12-17 17:06:49 UTC

You’re asking for too much

What's the purpose of this channel @The Big Oof ? To debate people only with facts and logic and not weaponized autism?

2018-12-17 17:15:59 UTC

Cringe and bluepilled

2018-12-17 17:41:10 UTC

for when the spergs crawl out at night and people want a serious channel to move in to

Well it will certainly help it the ad-hominens, shitpost and memeind during the discussion, but it would be better for the channel name to be: No Autism Discussion so people catch what's about faster

2018-12-17 18:24:14 UTC

If you think Ad Hominem is bad, you’re a retard

2018-12-17 18:24:33 UTC


2018-12-17 18:48:52 UTC

hello fellow autists

2018-12-17 18:48:57 UTC

Ad hom is bad but most people don't know what that is

2018-12-17 18:49:33 UTC

Everyone I meet on these lower discords think it means insults

2018-12-17 18:49:35 UTC

you're wrong because you're a retard : adhom
you're a retard : not adhom

2018-12-17 18:49:55 UTC

That's incorrect

2018-12-17 18:50:43 UTC

It would be "you are wrong because you hold x belief"

2018-12-17 18:51:04 UTC

that just points towards a bias

2018-12-17 18:51:13 UTC

hardly constitutes as adhom

2018-12-17 18:51:17 UTC

It's a type of bias

2018-12-17 18:51:28 UTC

What you described is insults either way

2018-12-17 18:51:36 UTC

hurr you're wrong because u read breitbart

2018-12-17 18:51:43 UTC


2018-12-17 18:51:46 UTC

There you go

2018-12-17 18:51:46 UTC

some truth in there tho

2018-12-17 18:51:52 UTC

breitbart is retarded

2018-12-17 18:51:53 UTC

Can be

2018-12-17 18:52:05 UTC

Not all logical fallacies are bad

2018-12-17 18:52:15 UTC

Or wrong I should say

2018-12-17 18:52:25 UTC

slippery slope can apply in a lot of cases

2018-12-17 18:52:34 UTC

like the degeneration of the society

2018-12-17 18:52:53 UTC

Depends on the level of correlation

2018-12-17 18:53:24 UTC

If it's above a 50% correlation than yes

2018-12-17 18:53:54 UTC

For example queer theroy causing pedophilia

2018-12-17 18:54:15 UTC

it's not what I'm saying, I'm saying that typically the slippery slope already happened and that saying it won't happen because it's a logical falacy is a bit of a lie

2018-12-17 18:54:40 UTC

Well yeah that's appeal to stone though

2018-12-17 18:54:54 UTC

There is also a fallacy fallacy

2018-12-17 18:55:06 UTC

some meta shit right here

2018-12-17 18:55:56 UTC

Not really think about a war vs a battle you can lose a single point to a fallacy but your overall idea is not fallacious

2018-12-17 18:57:05 UTC

They're using the literal definition of ad-hom

2018-12-17 18:57:24 UTC

It does mean an insult, however, an insult does not become a fallacy until it is used as an argument

2018-12-17 18:57:32 UTC

I can say Islam is dangerous, all Muslims are terrorists. I've committed a fallacy of composition but to say I'm completely wrong would be false

2018-12-17 18:57:33 UTC

Calling someone retarded is not a fallacy

2018-12-17 18:57:39 UTC


2018-12-17 18:57:49 UTC

Shapiro gets it

2018-12-17 18:58:32 UTC

saying someone is wrong because he is a retard is fallacious tho

2018-12-17 18:58:42 UTC


2018-12-17 18:58:52 UTC

that's what I said initially my friend

2018-12-17 18:59:07 UTC

But that's an insult not ad hom

2018-12-17 18:59:16 UTC

go read again

2018-12-17 18:59:19 UTC

I'm just pointing out that technically ad hom does mean insult, but that doesn't make it a fallacy right away

2018-12-17 18:59:26 UTC

I dont like the way its defined

2018-12-17 18:59:31 UTC

it gets misused a lot

2018-12-17 19:00:03 UTC

An insult is not a fallacy

2018-12-17 19:00:13 UTC

using it as a reason to dismiss someone, is

2018-12-17 19:00:26 UTC


2018-12-17 19:00:39 UTC

but im just going into semantics and getting this off topic

2018-12-17 19:00:52 UTC

This isn't semantics though

2018-12-17 19:01:01 UTC

This is nitpicking

2018-12-17 19:01:16 UTC


2018-12-17 19:01:18 UTC

Me and Irma argued about that for 2 hours last week

2018-12-17 19:01:31 UTC

thought this was no autism channel

2018-12-17 19:01:50 UTC

is it autistic for me to point that out?

2018-12-17 19:02:04 UTC

I'm not autistic I've been tested

2018-12-17 19:02:15 UTC

I'm retarded

2018-12-17 19:03:57 UTC

I've had people try to claim I was wrong because if "your retarded your IQ is under 70 so you can't possibly understand this"

2018-12-17 19:04:43 UTC

where do you stand politically?

2018-12-17 19:04:53 UTC

Classical liberal

2018-12-17 19:05:01 UTC

oh no

2018-12-17 19:05:50 UTC

😏 that's what I like to see

2018-12-17 19:06:29 UTC

If I tell people my politics and their like "oh me too" I leave I don't like echo chamers

2018-12-17 19:07:47 UTC

I'm here to teach and learn not to be told I'm correct.

2018-12-17 19:07:49 UTC

did u watch spencer vs sargon debate?

2018-12-17 19:07:54 UTC


2018-12-17 19:08:00 UTC

who do u think won that?

2018-12-17 19:08:31 UTC

Clearly Sargon Spencer refused to refute half of sargons points

2018-12-17 19:09:17 UTC

I couldnt sit through it

2018-12-17 19:09:20 UTC

It was really bad

2018-12-17 19:09:25 UTC

That whole debate

2018-12-17 19:09:25 UTC

It was gross

2018-12-17 19:09:28 UTC

I watched pieces of it

2018-12-17 19:09:33 UTC

alright fair enough, not sure what answer I expected. I'd have to rewatch the debate if I wanted to continue discussing the finer points of the debate

2018-12-17 19:09:42 UTC

Sargon and Richard both embarrassed themselves, but Sargon even more so

2018-12-17 19:10:00 UTC

I think he held his own

2018-12-17 19:10:06 UTC

I don't think so

2018-12-17 19:10:28 UTC

I feel in that debate that Sargon got demolished

2018-12-17 19:10:36 UTC

Richard Spencer is also a generally weak debater

2018-12-17 19:10:43 UTC

For someone to lose to Richard Spencer

2018-12-17 19:10:43 UTC

and it's the reason behind his autism continuing forward

2018-12-17 19:10:46 UTC

it's pretty sad

2018-12-17 19:11:02 UTC

spencer is not really a debater tho

2018-12-17 19:11:09 UTC


2018-12-17 19:11:23 UTC

and u can see he wasn't debating, more like stating his reasons for his own views

2018-12-17 19:11:36 UTC


2018-12-17 19:11:41 UTC

Speaking of sad I've been watching gad saad recently

2018-12-17 19:12:12 UTC

it's usually what the debates between liberals and the "alt-right" devolve into, just liberals asking for us to justify our views

2018-12-17 19:12:42 UTC

Right because there is no justification for idenity politics

2018-12-17 19:12:42 UTC

saad is a jew tho

2018-12-17 19:12:48 UTC

I'm a jew

2018-12-17 19:13:06 UTC

well even better reason not to listen to him

2018-12-17 19:13:11 UTC

he's a secular jackass

2018-12-17 19:13:17 UTC

I'm secular

2018-12-17 19:13:29 UTC

Nice adhom though

2018-12-17 19:13:51 UTC

entirely materialistic world view devoid of any other perspective

2018-12-17 19:14:05 UTC

I was going to explain my self

2018-12-17 19:14:07 UTC

why that is

2018-12-17 19:14:21 UTC

you're quick to pull fallacies tho

2018-12-17 19:14:37 UTC

That implies you must be a materialist or spiritual

2018-12-17 19:15:01 UTC

I'm not a materialist nor am I spiritual

2018-12-17 19:16:08 UTC

I honestly don't care if nothing but materialistic perception is going to come out of your mouth, because that's what modernity used to explain everything

2018-12-17 19:16:24 UTC

the higher ideal was nothing but more of material

2018-12-17 19:17:53 UTC

to a point where we created these highly advanced constructs to just to create more and more wealth

2018-12-17 19:18:21 UTC

forsaking one self to its ties to the land and nature

2018-12-17 19:20:19 UTC

My higher Ideal is a more stable comfortable humanity

2018-12-17 19:20:24 UTC

I'm a humanist

2018-12-17 19:20:45 UTC

comfort is one of those, the freedom to be lazy, idle

2018-12-17 19:20:57 UTC

I disagree

2018-12-17 19:21:28 UTC

My job can be made more comfortable without me being lazy

2018-12-17 19:22:02 UTC

a smoother stone to come out, no rough edges that build character, smooth sailing

2018-12-17 19:22:33 UTC

comfort doesnt mean without diffoculties

2018-12-17 19:22:39 UTC

let me give you an example

2018-12-17 19:23:01 UTC

then what exactly does it mean, other than elimination of the struggle

2018-12-17 19:23:38 UTC

I guess I can struggle in a pit of pillows too

2018-12-17 19:23:57 UTC

My wife shouldnt have had to worry about her job because we got 2 feet of snow even though her boss was threatening to fire her for not risking her life to drive what was now a 4 hour trip

2018-12-17 19:24:53 UTC

I guess nature is just inconvenient

2018-12-17 19:24:53 UTC

>Working wife

2018-12-17 19:25:11 UTC

That's still elimination of struggle

2018-12-17 19:25:14 UTC

Unfair struggle

2018-12-17 19:25:21 UTC

But struggle nonetheless

2018-12-17 19:25:43 UTC

I went to work in a blizzard 2 years ago and totaled my car on the way back my company should have paid they instead threatened to fire me because I couldnt get back the next day

2018-12-17 19:26:40 UTC

I might be able to work from home one day, there are jobs near me that offer that opportunity.

2018-12-17 19:27:03 UTC

its not all its cracked up to be

2018-12-17 19:27:59 UTC

Well that's an accident on the way to the job, it should be responsibility of the company indeed

2018-12-17 19:28:51 UTC

nature is still nature, force unlike anything else, don't underestimate it

2018-12-17 19:29:14 UTC

You can be more comfortable by getting a better chair, is having a worse chair a struggle? What benefits does having a worse chair bring you? A squarer ass?

2018-12-17 19:29:24 UTC

back pain

2018-12-17 19:30:13 UTC

"nature is still nature, force unlike anything else, don't underestimate it"
I dont get how this is relevant.

2018-12-17 19:30:38 UTC

would u still totalled ur car if u were more careful?

2018-12-17 19:30:47 UTC

maybe drove slower during harsh conditions?

2018-12-17 19:30:50 UTC

I'm an expert driver

2018-12-17 19:30:58 UTC

I was going 10 mph

2018-12-17 19:31:08 UTC

I'm sure you are, I'm asking you what would you have done differently

2018-12-17 19:31:23 UTC

not drove back at all?

2018-12-17 19:31:45 UTC

I mean it's hinsight but consider

2018-12-17 19:31:57 UTC

yes I could sleep in a call center

2018-12-17 19:32:06 UTC

what would I eat

2018-12-17 19:32:49 UTC

went to a local shop or something?

2018-12-17 19:33:04 UTC

don't ask me, ask urself

2018-12-17 19:33:18 UTC

no thats what I'm saying

2018-12-17 19:33:22 UTC

find a solution

2018-12-17 19:33:33 UTC

My solution was to get home

2018-12-17 19:33:52 UTC

the usual habit

2018-12-17 19:34:19 UTC

what you are saying isnt reasonable

2018-12-17 19:34:49 UTC

is it so unreasonable to deem travel to your home too dangerous?

2018-12-17 19:35:19 UTC

because you would be inconvinienced otherwise

2018-12-17 19:35:27 UTC

yes but the alternitive was to risk starving or frezing to death

2018-12-17 19:35:55 UTC

Ok this is getting autistic, you should try to return to the main topics

2018-12-17 19:36:02 UTC

yep agreed

2018-12-17 19:36:09 UTC

I'm not autistic

2018-12-17 19:36:16 UTC

Not what I said

2018-12-17 19:36:32 UTC

right but you implied it

2018-12-17 19:36:36 UTC

I did not

2018-12-17 19:36:52 UTC

This is just zoomer phrasing

2018-12-17 19:36:59 UTC

it cant be "geting autistic" without someone being autistic

2018-12-17 19:37:16 UTC

Ok this got autistic

2018-12-17 19:37:25 UTC


2018-12-17 19:38:05 UTC

Again, this is zoomer phrasing. Words like gay and autism don't mean the diseases that are actually named like that

2018-12-17 19:39:28 UTC

Lol gay isn't a disease

2018-12-17 19:39:40 UTC

If gay was a disease so is straight

2018-12-17 19:40:08 UTC


2018-12-17 19:40:26 UTC

I'm pretty sure this guy is a troll

2018-12-17 19:40:27 UTC

I won't shitpost about it here, but gayness and transexuality are ills and perversions of nature

2018-12-17 19:41:13 UTC

an abnormality of the natural

2018-12-17 19:41:18 UTC

Then why does homosexuality happen in nature

2018-12-17 19:41:31 UTC

it happens because nature is flawed

2018-12-17 19:41:41 UTC

It happens in awful conditions, see the Mouse Utopia

2018-12-17 19:41:49 UTC

I'm gonna make a sandwich haven't eaten in like 24h

2018-12-17 19:41:59 UTC

Then do so, lol

2018-12-17 19:42:15 UTC

it's ok he has time anyway

2018-12-17 19:42:22 UTC

we don't starve that easily

2018-12-17 19:43:55 UTC

Yeah, but it's not healthy to ignore your needs for minerals and vitamins

2018-12-17 19:44:42 UTC

ofc not but 3 meals a day is a bit of an overkill tho

2018-12-17 19:44:48 UTC

u can do with much less

2018-12-17 19:44:58 UTC

as long as you get all ur vitamins and minerals

2018-12-17 19:45:43 UTC

3000 calories before hours of workout gang?

2018-12-17 19:46:15 UTC

or after?

2018-12-17 19:46:26 UTC

as a good reward and nourishment

2018-12-17 19:47:11 UTC

Both have its benefits, I suppose

2018-12-17 19:51:31 UTC

I'm fat and can defintaely stand to skip a few meals but im so hungry I cant think straight

2018-12-17 19:54:45 UTC

"it happens because nature is flawed"

nature cannot be flawed as its objective

2018-12-17 20:03:37 UTC

Humans fucked up nature

2018-12-17 20:06:08 UTC

sure but we didnt cause the gay

2018-12-17 20:07:57 UTC

The gay is a perversion of sexuality, like pedophilia. As pointed above, one of the symptoms of the Mouse Utopia was rampant homosexuality

2018-12-17 20:09:11 UTC

not true homosexuality has always existeted in nature before humans intervened

2018-12-17 20:10:02 UTC

you think humans made dolphins and giraffes gay?

2018-12-17 20:13:25 UTC


2018-12-17 20:13:26 UTC

The Mouse Utopia did not introduce homosexuality, it was something that happened naturally with the mice there. The gay has no benefits, and is even counterproductive, as the genetic seed is wasted.

2018-12-17 20:13:29 UTC

we made the frogs gay

2018-12-17 20:13:32 UTC

why not the dolphins?

2018-12-17 20:13:57 UTC

Hey Kosovo, shitposting is not allowed in this one, just a heads-up

2018-12-17 20:14:17 UTC

I know, but I saw the golden opportunity

2018-12-17 20:14:19 UTC

I had to do it

2018-12-17 20:14:38 UTC

Masturbation has no benefits but chimps do it

2018-12-17 20:15:34 UTC

Masturbation is really gay, but way less counterproductive. And they don't masturbate when they can actually have sex.

2018-12-17 20:16:00 UTC

nature can get corrupted, the source of corruption is not always humans

2018-12-17 20:16:02 UTC

bruh you just told him not to shit post

2018-12-17 20:16:21 UTC

so to answer the initial question why faggotry is in nature it's because of this

2018-12-17 20:16:26 UTC

I did not shitpost

2018-12-17 20:16:27 UTC

"Masturbation is really gay"

2018-12-17 20:16:34 UTC

thats a shit post

2018-12-17 20:16:39 UTC

it's hedonistic

2018-12-17 20:16:53 UTC

but calling it gay is not an arument

2018-12-17 20:17:04 UTC

"Again, this is zoomer phrasing. Words like gay and autism don't mean the diseases that are actually named like that"

2018-12-17 20:17:16 UTC

well I'm a boomer

2018-12-17 20:17:25 UTC

We got that already

2018-12-17 20:18:38 UTC

I could argue that calling it hedonistic is literally autistic though not colloquially

2018-12-17 20:20:12 UTC

classical liberalism is gay

2018-12-17 20:20:28 UTC

that's a shitpost tho

2018-12-17 20:20:40 UTC

it's still incredibly gay

2018-12-17 20:20:48 UTC

I learned it from a gay man

2018-12-17 22:06:36 UTC

I can identify a boomer just looking at the avi.

2018-12-17 22:07:20 UTC

I would even say it is my field of expertise.

2018-12-17 22:07:51 UTC

you wouldnt based on my last one

2018-12-17 22:08:17 UTC


2018-12-17 22:10:58 UTC

I totes would... u see I was studying boomers for ages... their behaviour patters... how they act... how they think.

2018-12-17 22:11:27 UTC


2018-12-17 22:11:38 UTC

That is totes true.

2018-12-17 22:11:52 UTC

I have written my doctor thesis on boomers.

2018-12-17 22:12:13 UTC


2018-12-17 22:12:21 UTC

ehhh ok ok

2018-12-17 22:13:14 UTC

the concept of shitposting is transgenerational

2018-12-17 22:14:22 UTC

What happened? I was away

2018-12-17 22:14:40 UTC

nothing really im just giving him shit

2018-12-17 22:14:55 UTC


2018-12-17 22:15:33 UTC

I would disagree. Surprised a boomer is able to grasp such a intrinsic and complicated concept.

2018-12-17 22:16:03 UTC

lol how old do you think I am?

2018-12-17 22:18:08 UTC

Violated my own rule, so I deleted

2018-12-17 22:18:15 UTC


2018-12-17 22:18:19 UTC

I saw

2018-12-17 22:18:49 UTC


2018-12-17 22:18:59 UTC

At this point I can't stop myself

2018-12-17 22:19:32 UTC

well yeah it is hard to let a boomer go that easily

2018-12-17 22:19:50 UTC

but I would say

2018-12-17 22:19:52 UTC


2018-12-17 22:19:53 UTC


2018-12-17 22:19:57 UTC

the way we do it in agora is small amounts is okay inbetween serious discussions

2018-12-17 22:20:00 UTC

it is a booming age

2018-12-17 22:20:19 UTC

off by 20

2018-12-17 22:20:45 UTC


2018-12-17 22:20:49 UTC

hmmm wow

2018-12-17 22:21:08 UTC

your generation really is out of touch lmao

2018-12-17 22:21:38 UTC

lol ok not gonna joke from you now... would feel strange taking the age into account

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