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You’re asking for too much
What's the purpose of this channel @The Big Oof ? To debate people only with facts and logic and not weaponized autism?
Cringe and bluepilled
for when the spergs crawl out at night and people want a serious channel to move in to
Well it will certainly help it the ad-hominens, shitpost and memeind during the discussion, but it would be better for the channel name to be: No Autism Discussion so people catch what's about faster
If you think Ad Hominem is bad, you’re a retard
hello fellow autists
Ad hom is bad but most people don't know what that is
Everyone I meet on these lower discords think it means insults
you're wrong because you're a retard : adhom
you're a retard : not adhom
It would be "you are wrong because you hold x belief"
that just points towards a bias
hardly constitutes as adhom
It's a type of bias
What you described is insults either way
hurr you're wrong because u read breitbart
There you go
some truth in there tho
breitbart is retarded
Not all logical fallacies are bad
Or wrong I should say
slippery slope can apply in a lot of cases
like the degeneration of the society
Depends on the level of correlation
If it's above a 50% correlation than yes
For example queer theroy causing pedophilia
it's not what I'm saying, I'm saying that typically the slippery slope already happened and that saying it won't happen because it's a logical falacy is a bit of a lie
Well yeah that's appeal to stone though
There is also a fallacy fallacy
some meta shit right here
Not really think about a war vs a battle you can lose a single point to a fallacy but your overall idea is not fallacious
They're using the literal definition of ad-hom
It does mean an insult, however, an insult does not become a fallacy until it is used as an argument
I can say Islam is dangerous, all Muslims are terrorists. I've committed a fallacy of composition but to say I'm completely wrong would be false
Calling someone retarded is not a fallacy
Shapiro gets it
saying someone is wrong because he is a retard is fallacious tho
that's what I said initially my friend
But that's an insult not ad hom
go read again
I'm just pointing out that technically ad hom does mean insult, but that doesn't make it a fallacy right away
I dont like the way its defined
it gets misused a lot
An insult is not a fallacy
using it as a reason to dismiss someone, is
but im just going into semantics and getting this off topic
This isn't semantics though
This is nitpicking
Me and Irma argued about that for 2 hours last week
thought this was no autism channel
is it autistic for me to point that out?
I'm not autistic I've been tested
I've had people try to claim I was wrong because if "your retarded your IQ is under 70 so you can't possibly understand this"
where do you stand politically?
😏 that's what I like to see
If I tell people my politics and their like "oh me too" I leave I don't like echo chamers
I'm here to teach and learn not to be told I'm correct.
did u watch spencer vs sargon debate?
who do u think won that?
Clearly Sargon Spencer refused to refute half of sargons points
I couldnt sit through it
It was really bad
That whole debate
It was gross
I watched pieces of it
alright fair enough, not sure what answer I expected. I'd have to rewatch the debate if I wanted to continue discussing the finer points of the debate
Sargon and Richard both embarrassed themselves, but Sargon even more so
I think he held his own
I don't think so
I feel in that debate that Sargon got demolished
Richard Spencer is also a generally weak debater
For someone to lose to Richard Spencer
and it's the reason behind his autism continuing forward
it's pretty sad
spencer is not really a debater tho
and u can see he wasn't debating, more like stating his reasons for his own views
Speaking of sad I've been watching gad saad recently
it's usually what the debates between liberals and the "alt-right" devolve into, just liberals asking for us to justify our views
Right because there is no justification for idenity politics
saad is a jew tho
I'm a jew
well even better reason not to listen to him
he's a secular jackass
Nice adhom though
entirely materialistic world view devoid of any other perspective
I was going to explain my self
why that is
you're quick to pull fallacies tho
That implies you must be a materialist or spiritual
I'm not a materialist nor am I spiritual
I honestly don't care if nothing but materialistic perception is going to come out of your mouth, because that's what modernity used to explain everything
the higher ideal was nothing but more of material
to a point where we created these highly advanced constructs to just to create more and more wealth
forsaking one self to its ties to the land and nature
My higher Ideal is a more stable comfortable humanity
I'm a humanist
comfort is one of those, the freedom to be lazy, idle
My job can be made more comfortable without me being lazy
a smoother stone to come out, no rough edges that build character, smooth sailing
comfort doesnt mean without diffoculties
let me give you an example
then what exactly does it mean, other than elimination of the struggle
I guess I can struggle in a pit of pillows too
My wife shouldnt have had to worry about her job because we got 2 feet of snow even though her boss was threatening to fire her for not risking her life to drive what was now a 4 hour trip
I guess nature is just inconvenient
That's still elimination of struggle
But struggle nonetheless
I went to work in a blizzard 2 years ago and totaled my car on the way back my company should have paid they instead threatened to fire me because I couldnt get back the next day
I might be able to work from home one day, there are jobs near me that offer that opportunity.
its not all its cracked up to be
Well that's an accident on the way to the job, it should be responsibility of the company indeed
nature is still nature, force unlike anything else, don't underestimate it
You can be more comfortable by getting a better chair, is having a worse chair a struggle? What benefits does having a worse chair bring you? A squarer ass?
"nature is still nature, force unlike anything else, don't underestimate it"
I dont get how this is relevant.
would u still totalled ur car if u were more careful?
maybe drove slower during harsh conditions?
I'm an expert driver
I was going 10 mph
I'm sure you are, I'm asking you what would you have done differently
not drove back at all?
I mean it's hinsight but consider
yes I could sleep in a call center
what would I eat
went to a local shop or something?
don't ask me, ask urself
no thats what I'm saying
find a solution
My solution was to get home
the usual habit
what you are saying isnt reasonable
is it so unreasonable to deem travel to your home too dangerous?
because you would be inconvinienced otherwise
yes but the alternitive was to risk starving or frezing to death
Ok this is getting autistic, you should try to return to the main topics
I'm not autistic
Not what I said
right but you implied it
I did not
This is just zoomer phrasing
it cant be "geting autistic" without someone being autistic
Ok this got autistic
Again, this is zoomer phrasing. Words like gay and autism don't mean the diseases that are actually named like that
Lol gay isn't a disease
If gay was a disease so is straight
I'm pretty sure this guy is a troll
I won't shitpost about it here, but gayness and transexuality are ills and perversions of nature
an abnormality of the natural
Then why does homosexuality happen in nature
it happens because nature is flawed
It happens in awful conditions, see the Mouse Utopia
I'm gonna make a sandwich haven't eaten in like 24h
Then do so, lol
it's ok he has time anyway
we don't starve that easily
Yeah, but it's not healthy to ignore your needs for minerals and vitamins
ofc not but 3 meals a day is a bit of an overkill tho
u can do with much less
as long as you get all ur vitamins and minerals
3000 calories before hours of workout gang?
as a good reward and nourishment
Both have its benefits, I suppose
I'm fat and can defintaely stand to skip a few meals but im so hungry I cant think straight
"it happens because nature is flawed"
nature cannot be flawed as its objective
Humans fucked up nature
sure but we didnt cause the gay
The gay is a perversion of sexuality, like pedophilia. As pointed above, one of the symptoms of the Mouse Utopia was rampant homosexuality
not true homosexuality has always existeted in nature before humans intervened
you think humans made dolphins and giraffes gay?
The Mouse Utopia did not introduce homosexuality, it was something that happened naturally with the mice there. The gay has no benefits, and is even counterproductive, as the genetic seed is wasted.
we made the frogs gay
why not the dolphins?
Hey Kosovo, shitposting is not allowed in this one, just a heads-up
I know, but I saw the golden opportunity
I had to do it
Masturbation has no benefits but chimps do it
Masturbation is really gay, but way less counterproductive. And they don't masturbate when they can actually have sex.
nature can get corrupted, the source of corruption is not always humans
bruh you just told him not to shit post
so to answer the initial question why faggotry is in nature it's because of this
I did not shitpost
"Masturbation is really gay"
thats a shit post
but calling it gay is not an arument
"Again, this is zoomer phrasing. Words like gay and autism don't mean the diseases that are actually named like that"
well I'm a boomer
We got that already
I could argue that calling it hedonistic is literally autistic though not colloquially
classical liberalism is gay
that's a shitpost tho
it's still incredibly gay
I learned it from a gay man
I can identify a boomer just looking at the avi.
I would even say it is my field of expertise.
you wouldnt based on my last one
I totes would... u see I was studying boomers for ages... their behaviour patters... how they act... how they think.
That is totes true.
I have written my doctor thesis on boomers.
ehhh ok ok
the concept of shitposting is transgenerational
What happened? I was away
nothing really im just giving him shit
I would disagree. Surprised a boomer is able to grasp such a intrinsic and complicated concept.
lol how old do you think I am?
Violated my own rule, so I deleted
At this point I can't stop myself
well yeah it is hard to let a boomer go that easily
but I would say
the way we do it in agora is small amounts is okay inbetween serious discussions
it is a booming age
off by 20
your generation really is out of touch lmao
lol ok not gonna joke from you now... would feel strange taking the age into account
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