Farmers aren't rich, just look at the price of corn or soybeans per bushel and compare the cost to make those bushels. The only way most of them make money is through subsides.
T. Rural fag with relative who are farmers.

I agree, the only rich farmers in america are those that own thousands of acres and lease it to smaller farmers.

Its because subsides create a surplus that makes food to cheap to be profitable. The money is in unique food and products. Just look at how cheap live beef cattle is compared to ground beef.

Too

The current state of subiside is crazy though. Just look at the fact that the US government pays people not to grow food and makes farmers dump excess produce to keep prices stable.

https://modernfarmer.com/2016/08/cherry-dumping-farmer/

@neetkthx How are you going to get to costco after the US government collapses and the dollar becomes worthless? I'm not saying we live like ted kazcynski, but we'll need to be self sufficent before the collapse.

Anarcho-Primitivist 4 life

http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/05/11/fiscal-impact-of-whites-blacks-and-hispanics/ The US won't be around in twenty years because no politcian is willing to cut gibs. next look at the total debt owed by the government. Then add in the fact that the only think holding up our standard of living is the petro dollar. We as a nation are living on borrowed time.

(((they))) won't have our military after the collapse.

@neetkthx no, you don't have time. as we near closer to the tipping point the inflation rate while reach zimbabwe tier and shortages will set in.

We want a collapse, it's the best way to drain the swamp.

sorry, (((WE))). better?

How else are we gonna get Mr. shekelberg out of our nation and government?

@neetkthx
t. fallout fan

This discord exsists because we as a group see the collapse. we wouldn't be trying to escape tyrone and paco if we didn't see the shitshow that will the next few years.

@neetkthx you are misunderstanding me. I want us to live confortable lives as well, however it takes hard work to get their. The sooner we start the better.

there

I don't want to be a hermit. I want our community to succede. That takes hard work and a white man's planning and ingenouitity. How will we survive if we depend entirely on a system that is rigged against white people?

succede. session would be illegal.

I suck at spelling.

@Orchid niggers and spics don't pay taxes. so, collapse will happen sooner or later. Sleeping the dirt meant that we'd be sleeping in tents while primitive housing is built. I look at the settlement founding as being similar to age of the empires where have to move from african tech to modern tech. It takes time and the first phase would be too unpleasant for women and children. My hope is that when all is said and done we'll have electricity, vidya and a safe communitity.

that's fine you can come later.

No problem other than cost.

Yeah, houses are way cheaper if you build them yourself.

the way I see it, is that a few guys move out, clear land and make cabins to live in. they get the site prepped for everybody else. The cabins aren't permenant, but rather a step in the chain of progression. @Orchid yes, I built a deck last year and have some experience working with dry wall and plumbing.

@neetkthx they make wired smoke detecors that are hardwired into your house and therefore never need a new battery.

@chris#0919 you do realize wells can pump water without uncle sam. right?

@neetkthx The battery is a non-issuse if you buy the 10 year one.

so, you'd need 5 batteries for your entire life assuming you live to seventy and are twenty now. that's not an issue.

@chris#0919 when is the government going to do that? Unless you have tenants or abuse your children they have no reason to check.

@Orlunu it's only in a few states in the west.

we'd be lowkey, so no nazi flags or lynching trees. so, (((they))) probably wouldn't know we exsist.

I don't want to be set on fire by the ATF, so I personally won't be going to the compound with the rest of you. Cascade Front is a movement of peace, not violence.

@Orchid The compound comment was to show how we shouldn't be so keen on fighting the government. I don't wanna be part of

Waco 2 electic boogaloo.

yes, you were very vague. thanks for clearing that up.

It comes down to the county and wether or not we are part of a town or an unicorporated village. most county are okay with dividing large acreage up into small plots. the real problem is getting that land zoned in the first place.

the problem is that some members don't want to build a communitiy but rather, move into an exsisting one.

generally the more acreage you buy the cheaper it gets. That fits in well with my idea of 10 acres per family. however, nobody can force anyone to buy into this plan.

really, all we need is somebody there with a measurable degree of sucess and we've cleared the largest hurdle. from there it's only a matter of showing it off, and funding and volunters will be pouring in.

all it takes is ten guys with $5,000 a piece and we'd be set, but nobody seems willing to put up the money. Personally, I can do $3,000 right now and $5,000 by march.

if even one guy went out and bought 5 acres and got a few chickens. he could get thousands every month from hatereon from every /pol/tard who wants whites to succeed.

the varg and his dumb views. what about their love of the ever edgy styx. Most of /pol/ rides the short bus.

they love varg

You'd be better off googling him. he's hard to describe. But, he has a similar setup to what some of us want.

@Orchid the idea I have is to get something to take to hatreon and get a monthly income from that, then use that to expand and go from there. Thoughts?

the guilible masses.

they love throwing money at people for dumb shit all the time. With the right spin and meaningful progress I see no reason why this wouldn't work.

Well, if you have a fulltime job, how are you going to make progress?

What do they gain from giving money to richard spencer?

@Belisarius did you not read the part about land and videos showing progress?

@Belisarius then how would you move us from the planning stage to the action stage?

So, who bought a copy of AC kangz today? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhzGU3pcyp0

To be fair, he's german, so that was probably a fanatasy of his.

@Roman Dreams why montana? it's a barren shit hole that's frozen half the year.

Who agreed upon it? I don't remember being asked.

that doesn't mean montana. It means washington, idaho and oregon.

@Roman Dreams the best growing zone for montana is 5a, that severly limits what could be grown there.

@Loren the point is that we want a land that can support more than beans and corn.

hi, I'm from the cascade front.

Why can't black people handle the bantz?

I'm not aware of this discord's view on women, but from my experience at school, work and at home women don't use facts.

Good, Richard Spencer told me that the only true ethno-nationalists are gay.

Can I get a quick rundown on this discord's plans? Where will it be? How will you seperate from the US? Does anybody have skills needed to build a community from scratch, like gardening, construction, animal husbandry or sellable services?

nice, I'm a soon to be welder with some carpentry skills.

So, no idea where we start building and no mention of how we will gain sovreignity.
My view on where we build is the Upper peninsula. It's a large relatively warm winter area 6a and 5b. It has a very low population density. Plenty of timber and mineral resources like copper and iron. Land is very cheap https://www.landwatch.com/Marquette-County-Michigan-House-for-sale/pid/3871656 https://www.landwatch.com/Marquette-County-Michigan-Land-for-sale/pid/327859700 https://www.landwatch.com/Marquette-County-Michigan-House-for-sale/pid/27455148
Do you guys see the US collapsing in the next 30 years? I see a collapse via wiemar style inflation caused by national debt and the fact that most minorities don't pay taxes http://www.usdebtclock.org/. I'd love to hear your views on how you guys might gain independce.

WUZ

which channel?

kill the slav