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nm my dude
Anything you guys wanted to discuss in particular?
So basically I put the thread and this together for the purpose of promoting and thinking of ways to get a Midwest ethnic nationalist movement going. That means memes, propaganda, eventually a full organization.
I see. Here's the thing, I'm not sold 100% sold on ethno-nationalism. I've been reading a lot of books on politics, philosophy, history, and theology, etc. A lot of right wing/reactionary stuff too. I think that there are more practical and less controversial actions that individuals and communities should pursue before ethno-nationalism. For example have you heard of the Benedict option?
Somewhat. You can tell me how you see it though.
And ethnic nationalism can be a focus but doesn't have to be the main one. The Midwest is already extremely white. So by being a nationalist movement it's kinda already implied
I see a return to traditional Christian orthodoxy as a more beneficial path for society. The Benedict option is book encouraging orthodox Christians to form tight-knit citadels of faith and community to withstand progressive society. For me the main problems in society is the collapse of marriage and family, consumerism, materialism, secularism, transgenderism, and atomization. I don't see a political movement based on whiteness fixing those problems especially when whites are the most complicit in some of these things. I know a lot of people these days are atheist or agnostic, so they won't like what I have to say, but it's what I think is true. A lot of European/Western culture and tradition is enshrined in orthodox Christianity, so I think reviving tradition can revive civilization and culture. White is just too shallow, because everything else in the modern world is shallow.
White nationalism has a lot to do with traditionalism. It's not just about skin color but the culture and beliefs that come with it. Check out some accounts on twitter. A lot of them are about a return to traditional Christianity
I was literally looking at your thread when you messaged me. http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/133017072
I wish I had more to contribute to this, I'm not as educated on this particular topic as you guys are, and not exactly in a thinking mood today either . The main thing that's been on my mind today is thirdworld refugees getting dumped in small towns like Twin Falls Idaho, and well, you know what happened there...
Right now I live in Ames IA (fled from Chicago) and I'm worried about that shit happening here. The college campus seems conservative enough (conservative for an American college that is) but the town itself is basically one big liberal boomer retirement village, they'll surely welcome this shit once it happens.
I just feel so isolated here some days, it's good to have fellow polacks to discuss things with
I'm sure that's true. I'm Catholic and I have a of Catholic friends who are non-white but they live and breath traditional values than white Catholics, myself included. In fact they serve as good role models on how to be and live. There are devout priests from Africa who are bringing Americans and Europeans back to the Church in droves, and are reviving traditional liturgies. My reservations are that white nationalism might ruin that. I know it's hard to believe but Western civilization may be preserved in former backwards places like Africa and Eastern Europe. (However that doesn't mean I'm pro immigration though.)
We could just keep them all in Gary.
That's pretty funny bird. And beast you're good. A lot of this doesn't have to be philosophical discussion. It can be shit posting as well lol. And crusader, I think you should read into white genocide some more. Maybe listen to a little TRS. It'll red pill you quick. I'm Catholic as well, thought just like you did. But we have to save our people.
I'm reading through The Strange Death of Europe by Douglas Murray atm. I'm totally sold on why we need to stop immigrating so many people, especially the Islamic world. But I'm also not opposed to a parish getting an African priest who is totally fearless to speak out against sin and degeneracy from the pulpit.
And that's fine man but we also need an ethnic home. You're just not going to get people excited about a mid west nationalist movement without the race component. We don't have enough connecting us together besides our common ancestry.
Crusader, there will always be white priests speaking out against sin and degeneracy from the pulpit.
Send the black priests to Africa so they can save people there. Most of the Midwest is Christian. Most of Africa is not.
@IdentityIndiana Maybe someday, and if that day comes I might be there for it. But for me right now, I am interest in non-political (or even anti-political) means of fixing the crisis. As someone who lives in Minneapolis, there is so much self hate people have for their whiteness, it's mentally destabilizing them. If a Midwest white nationalist movement tried to take off tomorrow, it would be torpedoed by white progressives, not non-whites.
@The Pigeon Not so much from the older priests from what I've seen, but the newest generation of priests give me hope. There still is a shortage of priests across the U.S and Europe, and the Church so I think they will be a benefit. Look at this way. Priests are celibate. An African priest isn't going to intermarry or have a large family that would contribute to displacement. It's also possible that an African priest by speaking out against contraception, abortion, and pre-marital sex, and promoting the traditional family while drawing in young people back to the Church, could help bring back large white traditional families. Should we really send them back in that case? Let me be clear, I'm not making a case for immigration or multiculturalism by using the example of the priest. All I'm saying is that there are non-white people who can aid the cause of white Europeans because their voice gives strength to those of us who want to revive tradition. I guess I still believe that traditional values are more important than racial homogeneity. If you disagree I understand, but that's where I'm at.
That's the thing man you're thinking with an urban mindset. Most of the region is rural. They may not be proud of being white per say but they're over being told it's a bad thing. Got to get out of the mindset that the whole region is like one of the most liberal cities in the whole place.
You're probably right about that. I've been thinking that I should I move out of the city for a few years to get a different experience of life.
I would recommend it. Less things to do but better quality of people.
For real. I went to a College in a small town and grew to love it. I was born and raised in the city so I have a fondness for them too, but these days they've gotten so liberal it's getting to be alienating. It's sad to see what's happening to people in the cities these days.
Yea I lived in Indianapolis for a while when I was on an internship working for state government. I'm from a town of like 2000 people so it was a big change. I like the cities. They can be fun. It's time we take them back. Even Detroit still has so much potential. White men built those cities and liberal policies bringing in hordes of unskilled blacks and Mexicans ran them to the ground. All to get votes. We must take back what's ours.
Sup my man
True too many people give up entirely cities because all the weird shit that goes on in them. But there's so much great architecture and culture there that if we abandoned them completely we would lose a huge part of ourselves.
For sure man. I think from here we need to focus in on what this needs to all be about. I think most here are on about the race issue. From here I'd like to move on and list other concerns people see and would like to address within this movement.
What if we had a white person inner city chinpout
Like do what nogs did in reverse. (More organized of course)
So repair things?
What is the reverse of what nogs do?
I think white people already make things better. So we're doing great already boys!
but in all honesty Ive been thinking. the way we could get a name out there as a movement would to make a name for ourselves at one of the larger events. I plan on going to the unite the right rally in vir. we have a group there with maybe a flag and wearing some polos with a logo on them I fee that could be good out reach. goys from all over the midwest will be paying attention to that event. we come organized and with a clear message we could get something going.
That sounds fucking awesome my dude
I've been using this as an idea for a flag/ logo. Red whit and blue being very Midwesty colors. Used a lot in state flags. Added the eagle as a reference to the far right of this movement and a nod to Germany as the most common ancestry within the midwest being germanic. Anyone Is free to make criticism or put up their own if they'd like.
What should our hashtag be?
I've been doing #MidwestNationalism
Anyone here read siege yet?
Haven't actually. What's it about
I'm not that far yet but so far it's about national socialism and fascist political groups that are more recent in America,
I'll have to give it a look. I've recently ordered mein kämpft so looking forward to that.
Amazon has it for like 12 bucks I think
Oh yea I'm a big fan
did you get it in english
Got both actually.
can you read the original
It's a more southern version of German than in used to but I can make out a lot
What brought you to the movement man?
like this specific group or in general
Kinda in general but the group too of ya want. You seem pretty well informed
mostly out of curiosity at first, but then I decided to look more into right leaning things and found groups like this and I've learned alot through discussion and aligned myself with more far right ideas
Same rout really. I was always a normie conservative. As I read into more about alt right and just couldn't get enough
I find thats how most ended up here
Anyone have an idea for the name of this movement? Think we may need something more catchy
What ya thinking man
it needs to be approachable to the uninitiated
I keep going to Midwest League but I think it's too close to the league of the south
Could go with the Midwest Bund, as a throwback to the Deuche Amerika Bund. But maybe too subtle of a reference
not many would notice though
True, I do think any ethnic movement within the region will have to have some pan- Germanic References just due to the overwhelming amount of German heritage within the region.
noted, but not many new Germans, the Austrians in my family came here 4 generations ago, so many dont identify with European heritage
I got ya man. Yea mine came over in the mid 1700's. Some regions it's much more alive than others. A town near to me still flys the German flag and looks like any Town in Bavaria. Think it really depends on where you go. I'm just trying to think of common factors that could tie a very large region of people together.
a town in indiana?
Pretty cool place, big festivals each fall
what city is it in?
It and the towns around it are super german
man thats far south for me though
Lol I'm just using it as an example of the culture that's still around. And people eat this stuff up. Drive for miles to see and buy the folky shit.
Whenever I go to chicago I drive by this huge mosque always see shady people there
Ever report it?
they're not worth it, besides its not in my state anyways
True Illinois is fucked beyond belief.
without a doubt
Honestly wouldn't be shocked it it went bankrupt soon. It really doesn't deserve to be a state at this point.
its a shame really
Yea. It's Chicago that being the whole state down. Everything else is pretty far right besides that.
yea, i go there alot and your not wrong, not by a longshot
Yea, well I'm going to start working on some stuff for this tomorrow. If everyone could brain storm on some name ideas or anything else they would like to pitch in on that would be great. Got a lot of good people involved so far. Just got to get a little more organized.
That's some deep shit 😂
working on a video, think ill have it done relatively soon. want to get it out there as something we can use to get the idea around and get more people interested in the idea of making the Midwest the ethnic home. not really going to put much detail into any beliefs besides that because were still pretty vague. so far though its some good stuff
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