man, im not going to sit here and say that on a long enough timeline something like that wont happen, but if i operate under the belief that it's going to happen tomorrow, or out of the clear blue sky, then i may as well just pack it in, go build my mud hut, and live a hunter gatherer life of fear and hunger

the idea here is to congregate, concentrate, plan and wait

Anarcho-Primitivist 4 life

im not going to build the walls of my city until i actually live there, it's hard to move walls

i feel like there will be a very visible build up to whatever abortive civil war does happen, and im not 1000% convinced that the eventual event will be enough to completely shatter the US

if you're not assuming the end is at hand, the quickest way to become self reliant is to start with some degree of external support and replace it with community-based providers as you develop

by that point i hope to be in the company of my brothers and sisters, prepared to weather the storm, if i'm not there yet, its not for lack of trying to be

as long as there is a strong enough in group preference that you will favour local producers even at a slightly greater price, you will get to autarky soon enough

there's a nihilistic endpoint with any 'great conspiracy' or 'imminent collapse' belief

if we're fucked tomorrow, whats the point of anything

http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/05/11/fiscal-impact-of-whites-blacks-and-hispanics/ The US won't be around in twenty years because no politcian is willing to cut gibs. next look at the total debt owed by the government. Then add in the fact that the only think holding up our standard of living is the petro dollar. We as a nation are living on borrowed time.

if they control everything, whats the point of doing anything

cool, i have 20 years to build then

(((they))) won't have our military after the collapse.

ill keep an eye on the weathervane, and if it starts to spin in circles ill divest my paper currency into even more guns and bullets and canned food

until then, this channel exists to plan as bright a future in t he PNW as we can make, we'll plan for rain, but hope for clear sky

@neetkthx no, you don't have time. as we near closer to the tipping point the inflation rate while reach zimbabwe tier and shortages will set in.

We want a collapse, it's the best way to drain the swamp.

well shit i guess ill go turn it all into gold in the morning

also, who the fuck is we

sorry, (((WE))). better?

seems about right

How else are we gonna get Mr. shekelberg out of our nation and government?

nuclear war i guess

@neetkthx
t. fallout fan

my man, if you're right then you can fiddle while it burns singing i told you so the whole way through, but I can't live my life assuming that tomorrow is fucked beyond all repair, and the objective of this channel runs in that same vein

if we're fucked, then we're fucked, and id rather work towards a happier maybe while preparing for the sad one, instead of betting it all on the black pill and being a depressive hermit in the woods

This discord exsists because we as a group see the collapse. we wouldn't be trying to escape tyrone and paco if we didn't see the shitshow that will the next few years.

my advice to everyone who is financially secure is buy a gun, and if you have a gun, buy another one and go shoot them a bunch, but im not ready to bury 20 school busses in my backyard

Collapsepilled

i can promise you that at a mod level we have discussed this, and none of the channel leaders are interested in a retreat into nature, thats not this channel

@neetkthx you are misunderstanding me. I want us to live confortable lives as well, however it takes hard work to get their. The sooner we start the better.

there

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@dsp fries it I think the types of people most likely survive any sort of collapse are the kinds of people who have their lives in order before the collapse. Besides, I dont think you need a discord channel to go be a survivalist in the woods, there are already a lot of people who are into that.

I don't want to be a hermit. I want our community to succede. That takes hard work and a white man's planning and ingenouitity. How will we survive if we depend entirely on a system that is rigged against white people?

is anyone saying we should?

Wait are you saying succeed? Or secede?

succede. session would be illegal.

I suck at spelling.

nobody is arguing for being entirely dependent on the system, it's just not a good strategy to act like the system will collapse literally any day now.