I remember when I had my first beer.

Lol^

https://www.facebook.com/GetFashyWithIt/videos/426949247764574/

https://twitter.com/bravingruin/status/968964167557435392?s=21

Well, so much for impeachment.

Haha Feinstein was loving him during that little chat they were having

Laughing and clapping, etc.

Thoughts https://identitydixie.com/2018/02/28/white-identity-or-white-nationalism-choose-wisely/

Basically identitarians are countersignaling nationalists even through identitarians deep down want what we want. Identitarianism is basically about “muh whiteness” “muh demographic displacement”, and “muh crime rates” rather than being boots on the ground, and saying this is my country it belongs to me and my children, and this is my birthright, and you will not take it from us without resistance

All of the “muhs” that I stayed above are still valid; however no policy; or public opinion will really shift if we resort to “but muh” nationalism

I respect identitarianism as a movement; however it’s more of a Europe thing, nationalism is imbued within American culture itself.

I agree

Idenitarians want WN, but without the label, but its a confusing message then. The only benefit is that maybe someone is more likely to be WI at first then see WN is the only legitimate solution

Very few people in America are actually "identitartians" even Patrick Casey and damigo are all white nationalists who have adopted the title for various reasons. Mostly due to cultural pressure.

Yea

I agree with the thoughts explained in the article. White Nationalism, as a school of thought and a label similar to what the article describes, has been mostly made useless. Not sure to what degree tactics fit into ideology, but there is a significant correlation.

I still, and will continue to think, that the American habit to bypass their **national** identity, and instead focus solely on their **racial** identity, the two of which are vastly different, is a mistake that other nations have not made, and could be undeniably a reason for America's lack of substantive nationalist movements.

@Josh OH is right. They are WNs but they don’t want the label

In Europe however there are followers of Guiome Faye who do belive in the ideology as it is.

It really boils down to whether or not you are a revolutionary in my opinion.

Naive too

Or optics

If White identitarianism was pro-segregation and right of Association (allow discrimination) then I could see it being something that could be helpful

I could see it as a stepping stone to an ethnostate

I’d consider nationalism to the right of Identitarianism. I started off as a liberal, then libertarian, then conservative, then paleocon , then Identitarian, and I’m at Nationalist right now.

I'm not sure if that specifically is what the article is pointing out. Both the 1.0 spheres and the Identitarian crowd ignore national identity in place of a more broad reaching conception of racial identity, at least in America. They would be vastly better suited to focus on their own people, their own nation, and let other nations do the same.

Identitarianism is a movement which is open about its goals to simply influence the thought of the race as a whole. However unlikely or difficult, it's nothing that's wrong to do. It's not something so easily placed on a left/right spectrum.

PF imo has the best position: identity of racecand nation.

Whether a movement is revolutionary or not ultimately comes down to tactics. Any significant divergence from the status quo could reasonably be called revolutionary. It's whether or not you plan to get there.

^

People don't realize that the state used force and policy to diversify this country and it can use the same state and policy to undiversify it. Obviously there will be people who resist and there will be violence. But there was violence during desegregation as well.

@Josh OH We don't talk about other nations. Other nations don't fit into our platform. My nation comes first in all things. I care about other nations that share my race more than I do ones that do not, but I am not fighting for them. I am not fighting for Germans, or Italians, or Swedes, or Boers, or Australians. I'm fighting for Americans, for my nation. I expect them to do the same.

Where can I get one of these flags?

@Donald OH They're not official.

Shieeet

Today is. Tough day

Sad

Yeah I think it's hard for Americans to get behind a movement that extends beyond their Nation and requires them to Forfeit their American identity

We can’t forget our heritage though

@Donald OH Walmart

Next building I enter

They have lots of 🇺🇸

Only flag we need

🇺🇸

I have plenty of American flags. I was referring to the custom one. It’s bad ass

It strikes fear into our enemy

I know 😁

@Donald OH I am descendant from Europeans. I am not a European. If all Americans were transplanted into various European "ethnostates", then after several generations of assimilation, the nation would cease to be. I do not want that.

Our nation was brought into existence because we would not be ruled by a foreign nation. It was a matter of our identity, heritage, and way of life being so different from that of Europeans that we could not exist under the same government as them.

As for the flag. It was a custom, one-off order by a member. It will not be used in future demonstrations.

I’m aware that we are American. Our American identity means the world to me. I’m just saying heritage is also important.

True, but there is plenty of American heritage tbh

We're not tapping into that enough

I know. We’ve been here for an long time. Our blood is in this soil.

This is our birthright.

Killing Natives

👌🏻

Reds are the absolute worst

Massive civil war but coming back together

I hate anyone in this movement who shames the South.

Sorry to shitpost in an otherwise very excellent conversation, but..

Race =/= nation. I have a racial heritage. But like most people, its connection is weak compared to my national heritage. The people of my nation are near to me. I can see them, speak with them, interact with them. I know their struggle. Our ancestors fought in the same battles, and trekked across the same mountains.

However, I have shared no similar experiences with Russians, or Italians, or Latvians. I cannot connect with them in nearly the same way that I can with my nation. Racial identity exists, but it is not the driving force behind what we do. Nationalism is confined to a nation. Thus "White Nationalism" is almost contradictory.

Thomas should write a book on National identity in American

I don’t shame the south, but I prefer to keep the union in tact.

I just had to share that fresh Crowder meme.

South is holding on to our identity in ways the north has forfeited

@Thomas Ryan I agree brother

Yea union for sure. But having a civil war and returning as a union is part of our heritage. And there is a bond that develops when you fight someone and then end it respectfully

@Charlemagne MD I should start an activist group or something, I know. 💁🏻

^^^^

Do it!! Omg you should

That'd be fun.

🤔

I’d join 🤷🏼‍♂️ why not

Me too

I don't know being a part of an activism group sounds kind of larpy

If Thomas Ryan started a patriotic organization, I think thatd be pretty dumb. Only niggers, and laura loomer fans would join.

sad

We could do this thing with blue. Blue is kinda neat.

In fact, it would probably be called The #1 Laura Loomer fan club.

😅

@Josh OH , fuck off bro? Only feds join groups.

@Halfdan looking good

Besides, its not like we'd be able to assemble a nationwide group of good goyim that do things on a daily basis. Pssh, fuck that. I'd rather shitpost on /pol/.

That's where real change is done.

(You)

Do it for that ^

'scasm, fam.

Blue A E S T H E T I C S matter.

I need some of those cards

@Donald OH i got 500 on the way

@Josh OH fucking nice. I’ll stick a few in my wallet

WH petition about white African genocide
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/immigration-priority-south-african-farmers-facing-systematic-land-confiscations-and-murder

Just signed

Signed

Signed.

these are old but fun. i hadn't seen them yet.