But it's fresh?

when someone can't even remember what an AR-15 is

not worth talking to

people here in the UK think they will take away the guns in the USA

I'm not so sure bruh

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I don't mind talking to someone Anti-Gun if they have basic knowledge

I'm no expert cus I live in the UK

My dad knows nothing about guns, he thinks nobody needs a rifle, only handguns. And one should not need more than one bullet.

"But what if there are two people trying to kill you?"

"Then two bullets."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GPUYBcHyTc

oh man, I've just scrolled through the comments section of this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfHXJRqq-qo

now I'm dreading what the video itself is gonna be like

```likely not. as the germans could exterminate entire families and villages for every German soldier killed. if for every man you kill we will kill your one family, you lose encouragement o fight.```

fuckin' derp

nevermind this attitude lost the Germans the support of the entire Ukrainian populace

```Yea, why let people even have a sliver of a chance at surviving. It's better just to comply with genocidal dictators.```

Well, at least there are dissenting opinions there

I'd love to know how many of the pro-gun control people are of the NatSoc/AR variety

Having a well armed population will never fend off a well-trained army. Please don't mention Vietnam, okthanxbye.

```Half a million Jews and more political dissidents to the Nazis being armed indiscriminately from the rest of the population would definitely hurt the Nazis. Imagine the SS coming to their houses to take them away and fire fights ensue all over the country between people's old neighbors and co-workers. Instead of having them leave with the police peacefully they'd be seen dragged away with blood or shot in the streets. It would shift the majority of the population's opinion on Hitler from a benevolent nationalist to a ruthless dictator.```

As a dirty foreinger I should do some more research into the American Revolutionary war, just to see how.. asymmetric the warfare actually was

But I think it's probably still a reasonable enough example in of itself, despite many of the officers within the revolutionary army having served with the British empire in the past

I've seen this video before

And a similar discussion happened here already

I have to agree with 3 arrows and the German dude who was here

Guns wouldn't have changed that

Because they voted for Hitler

Plus, It's the 40s information wasn't as spread and it is right now ( even with the current state of things, you still have a lot of uniformed people nowadays, imagine in the 40s and 30s)

I had to explain to my sister that Hitler was voted in

eh

six of one, half dozen of the other

People seem to forget there were two pieces of gun legislation, for starters

I don't know, police doesn't appear as willing to walk into buildings with well armed people and drag them out.

I think Germany already had a gun registry by.. 1928?

@DanielKO
They have the army and the Gestapo for that

It's nice to know which of your potential opponents and dissidents could be armed

Look, if people wanted to fight, they would have done it

Guns wouldn't have changed that

Even if it's the army; would any soldier volunteer to be the first to enter into a building full or Jews fearful for their lives, and packing heat?

There is a few exemples in France and Poland, people without guns that formed a resistance group and fought the Nazis

Guns won't give you a fighting spirit

Either you have it or acquire it

If you don't have it, you don't have it, and guns won't change that

French and Polish resistance were unarmed? Where you getting *that* from?

And an old man can have as much fighting spirit as he wants, it ain't gonna mean shit if he can't fight

@Reaps
At the start, they acquired guns after

Here's a recent example: Brazil has slums, right? Weren't they occupied by the army just recently to reestablish order? How did that work out?

@DanielKO
Wonderfully, violence is dropping

What are you trying to imply?

And this is not an example at all

Doesn't the police have guns too?

@Reaps
I remember watching 2 polish partisans speaking how they got guns, it was quite interesting

What's that? Was the police afraid to get shot?

@DanielKO
Yeah, they don't have the manpower and the equipment to do it

Again, it's apple and oranges

And there you have it.

You are just trying to give me shit because you can't make an argument

If everyone can have a gun, around every corner, on every window, on every building, you don't go crushing your own people.

Loooooool

Their efficacy was extremely low with the abscence of firearms; we're also talking about occuppied countries during a war, rather than pre-39 people

They are not fighting the population, they are fighting organized crime

Again, it's apple and oranges

Which I assume is a minority of the population in the slums, right?

Yeah

Yet, they make it too hostile for police to deal with it.

Yeah

You actually can't see the difference?

The point is, the Nazis would have to patrol their cities with military to fight off a significant amount of armed civilians that could potentially shoot them from anywhere.

It's not like the Nazis steqmrolled entire villages because a few people shot at them

I'm not saying the population can outgun the army, but they could certainly make them wary of steamrolling everyone.

No, they would just kill everyone and call it a day

Like

And it's not like that wasn't a huge propoganda coup for the allies when they did it

They did

Lol

They did still

And even with them doing it

The majority of people didn't stand up and fought

I don't think your words are making sense.

yeah

Did the population, under Nazi control, have guns to protect themselves?

I don't think you understand what you arw talking about

this went off the rails quickly

You really giving me shit for being Brazilian

Because you can't make an argument

I'm not. I guess you're too sensitive about it.

You are comparing police action with an authoritarian government

And Implying it's the same thing

I was going to use an European country for that, but they're all pussies now.

Guns don't give you magical powers

Guns won't make you brave

Guns won't make you a warrior

They don't. But they make your oppressor scared of uniting everyone against them.

@DanielKO
It don't mean much when they can kill everyone

The idea that "if they had guns this wouldn't have happened" is just nonsense

If you know you're going to die if they come and take you away, wouldn't rather die trying to kill as many as you could?

@DanielKO
Yeah, how many they killed again?