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2017-12-16 23:20:09 UTC

period

2017-12-16 23:20:21 UTC

you dickless knave

2017-12-16 23:20:39 UTC

your source is not scientific at all

2017-12-16 23:20:52 UTC

Let the grown ups talk, please.

2017-12-16 23:21:06 UTC

@meratrix but they gave individual resumes to a multitude of people mowron

2017-12-16 23:21:26 UTC

@mรฉep Do you think eastern european (post commie) states are more imbalanced in regard of female scientists than the west?

2017-12-16 23:21:38 UTC

yes, but it's still the same resume, so, they would need to give multiple pairs of one resume with two different names

2017-12-16 23:21:41 UTC

that would be better

2017-12-16 23:21:54 UTC

but you still have the problem of different people evaluating one half of each pair

2017-12-16 23:22:08 UTC

@franti I don't know about eastern europe

2017-12-16 23:22:50 UTC

mathematically his source is basically doing 125 C 1
@meratrix

2017-12-16 23:22:56 UTC

@mรฉep We got more women into tech by forcing them.

2017-12-16 23:23:11 UTC

No stay at home mums here

2017-12-16 23:23:12 UTC

@meratrix individual human error is factored out when you repeat the process multiple times

2017-12-16 23:23:18 UTC

dude

2017-12-16 23:23:19 UTC

this is science class 5th grade

2017-12-16 23:23:24 UTC

it's fucking 125 Choose 1

2017-12-16 23:24:42 UTC

wait

2017-12-16 23:25:48 UTC

what was the sample size?

2017-12-16 23:25:51 UTC

125?

2017-12-16 23:25:56 UTC

๐Ÿ‘€

2017-12-16 23:25:57 UTC

lmao

2017-12-16 23:26:01 UTC

125

2017-12-16 23:26:35 UTC

125 people, choosing 2 results

2017-12-16 23:26:57 UTC

there's a possible 7750 combinations

2017-12-16 23:29:58 UTC

and a very poor margin of error

2017-12-16 23:30:31 UTC

"The results were surprisingโ€”they show that the decision makers did not evaluate the resume purely on its merits. Despite having the exact same qualifications and experience as John"

2017-12-16 23:30:37 UTC

you know everytime they say that

2017-12-16 23:30:47 UTC

I want to know what the resume was

2017-12-16 23:31:38 UTC

Also @mรฉep, to have any inling of reliability in this study they would not only need multiple resumes but multiple fields as well

2017-12-16 23:31:52 UTC

"Because they perceived the female candidate as less competent, the scientists in the study were less willing to mentor Jennifer or to hire her as a lab manager"
probably because girls won't take that extra step and go futher beyond

2017-12-16 23:31:55 UTC
2017-12-16 23:32:14 UTC

girls are **WAYYYY** less likely to go the extra mile

2017-12-16 23:32:27 UTC

they'll do lagom and stop

2017-12-16 23:32:48 UTC

@Deleted User Oh no now the whole "genders dont have natural tendencies" is going to come up

2017-12-16 23:32:52 UTC

so the question is:

2017-12-16 23:33:27 UTC

why the fuck would I hire someone who would do lagom, vs a person who would go above and beyond and do that extra crunch of work?

2017-12-16 23:33:35 UTC

^

2017-12-16 23:34:11 UTC

@mรฉep doesn't know shit about economics and has never worked a day in its life

2017-12-16 23:34:49 UTC

@Durtle02 yeah exactly, the "MUH genders dont have natural tendencies"

2017-12-16 23:34:57 UTC

kek ~~They do tho :p~~

2017-12-16 23:35:13 UTC

So one thing I noticed, Female faculty are less likely to recommend hiring more females.

2017-12-16 23:36:06 UTC

And they don't want to mentor female hires.

2017-12-16 23:36:08 UTC

I wonder why?

2017-12-16 23:36:10 UTC

<:think_woke:378717098681171988>

2017-12-16 23:36:36 UTC

Well, you have to wonder, because it's not been investigated.

2017-12-16 23:36:38 UTC

how fucking deceving

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/391735402387472396/Untitled.png

2017-12-16 23:36:40 UTC

because "MUH power politics" ^4

2017-12-16 23:37:00 UTC

it's only a difference of $4000 yet it looks huge in the graph

2017-12-16 23:37:00 UTC

Look at that huge differ... oh, where's the zero?

2017-12-16 23:37:12 UTC

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

2017-12-16 23:37:21 UTC

basic graph manipulation

2017-12-16 23:37:25 UTC

it's like that stunt nvida pulled

2017-12-16 23:37:42 UTC

If you're going to remove 25000 just finish off the extra 4000 why dont you?

2017-12-16 23:37:48 UTC

I don't know of a single journal/conference where this graph would be allowed.

2017-12-16 23:38:11 UTC

Oh, right... gender studies...

2017-12-16 23:38:17 UTC

hahahahah

2017-12-16 23:38:53 UTC

another graph for you guys

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/391735972704026624/Untitled.png

2017-12-16 23:39:16 UTC

would you look at that, the female faculty want to hire more male students

2017-12-16 23:39:29 UTC

muh internal muhsoggyknees amirite?

2017-12-16 23:39:44 UTC

OH AND LOOK AT THAT

2017-12-16 23:39:54 UTC

The paper could just as easily be "female faculty discriminate more than male faculty".

2017-12-16 23:39:57 UTC

The **MALE** faculty want to hire more females

2017-12-16 23:40:01 UTC

IMAGINE MY SHOCK

2017-12-16 23:40:03 UTC

wot

2017-12-16 23:40:14 UTC

Such good research @mรฉep

2017-12-16 23:40:19 UTC

you fucking plonker

2017-12-16 23:41:51 UTC

all this shows is that females are less likely to be good at jobs

2017-12-16 23:42:30 UTC

IF YOU'RE OWN GROUP IS DISCRIMINATING AGAINST YOU, that tells you something

2017-12-16 23:47:05 UTC

it's not that they're not good at office work, it's that they're cancerous to a productive environment

2017-12-16 23:47:22 UTC

^

2017-12-16 23:47:26 UTC

period

2017-12-16 23:47:33 UTC

all men = all good

2017-12-16 23:47:37 UTC

all women = all shit

2017-12-16 23:47:45 UTC

>We recruited faculty participants from Biology, Chemistry, and
>Physics departments at three public and three private large, geographically
>diverse research-intensive universities in the United States

2017-12-16 23:47:50 UTC

mixed = unproductive

2017-12-16 23:47:54 UTC

So this is what I think makes the study weak.

2017-12-16 23:48:32 UTC

3 departments across 6 universities.

2017-12-16 23:49:31 UTC

I don't know, it could be true, women are less likely to be hired as lab manager.

2017-12-16 23:49:58 UTC

At least on those 6 universities, on those 3 departments.

2017-12-16 23:50:53 UTC

But there's also the other story, that women discriminate more, also told, by accident, on the same study.

2017-12-16 23:54:02 UTC

It just doesn't convince me there's a systematic discrimination. I would also like to see a similar study on Psychology and Psychiatry departments. Heck, do it across all departments of all universities you can afford, break it down by department if needed.

2017-12-16 23:56:31 UTC

Also, let's keep in mind, the scales go from 1 to 7. The resume wasn't that great to begin with.

2017-12-16 23:57:40 UTC

Hireability below 4, honestly, would be a "don't hire" recommendation. At least for me.

2017-12-16 23:58:41 UTC

So we're talking about a candidate that would be almost universally rejected, only arguing about who got a worse failing grade.

2017-12-16 23:58:59 UTC

huh

2017-12-17 02:45:35 UTC
2017-12-17 02:45:57 UTC

>h3h3Productions
Disappointment

2017-12-17 02:46:25 UTC

Heil mein fuhrer Ajit Pai

2017-12-17 02:46:32 UTC

^

2017-12-17 02:46:38 UTC

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2017-12-17 02:46:46 UTC

Pai is love pai is life

2017-12-17 02:47:01 UTC

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2017-12-17 02:47:06 UTC

You know someone is a man of culture when they partake in the fidget spinner trend

2017-12-17 02:48:31 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/391783689828433921/669.jpg

2017-12-17 02:51:01 UTC

Lol

2017-12-17 02:51:16 UTC

Fucking /our guy/pai

2017-12-17 02:51:46 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/391784512062750720/a24G4Ne_700b.png

2017-12-17 02:53:50 UTC

Lol

2017-12-17 02:53:56 UTC

Nice meme dan

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