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2018-06-24 09:57:39 UTC

Yes

2018-06-24 09:57:46 UTC

Actually

2018-06-24 09:57:49 UTC

We have 21k

2018-06-24 09:57:53 UTC

But carry on

2018-06-24 09:58:10 UTC

Sargon has 809k youtube subscribers

2018-06-24 09:58:17 UTC

Yes. Your point?

2018-06-24 09:58:29 UTC

Which number is bigger?

2018-06-24 09:58:36 UTC

Sargon obviously.

2018-06-24 09:58:50 UTC

So he's....

2018-06-24 09:59:07 UTC

He's got 809k subscribers

2018-06-24 09:59:12 UTC

What are you trying to say

2018-06-24 10:03:19 UTC

If your trying to say that all because he has more subscribers than UKIP has members so that means that hes more popular you are dumber than I thought. Political party membership does not represent their popularity. If it did then millions of people would be a member of UKIP, conservatives, Labour, lib dems etc. That is just not true. Popularity comes in votes. As evident from past election UKIP total number of votes has greatly surpassed sargons subscriber count.

2018-06-24 10:04:43 UTC

Membership is more for the loyal supporters of that political party. Those who wish to stand as candidates, help out with events, help elected officials for that party, attend events, have a say in that party etc.

2018-06-24 10:06:04 UTC

I'm sorry, what was that last example

2018-06-24 10:06:08 UTC

I didn't catch it

2018-06-24 10:06:22 UTC

Last example for what?

2018-06-24 10:10:25 UTC

Are you talking about when I said "have a say in that party" is so then yes they do but as I said earlier in my message about the majority of ukip members more than likely not voting for sargon (that's in the unlikely case the NEC allows him to stand) the yes. They wouldn't vote for him. The minority of people who will be able and want to join the party from sargons fanbase would be shadowed by the incredibly large opposition to them who would vote other candidates

2018-06-24 10:10:47 UTC

Do you choose not to read my messages or are you just ignorant to my points?

2018-06-24 10:34:08 UTC

@Puma the number of people at the rally hasn't been confirmed yet per sources of people who attended the event. But the anti-brexit (and anti democratic, let's be real here) rally had figures ranging from 50k to a 100k

2018-06-24 10:34:11 UTC

Shameful

2018-06-24 13:45:17 UTC

@UKEEP๐ŸŒท
I think he might become a posterboy or gain a relevant cargo

2018-06-24 13:57:11 UTC

Oh don't get me wrong he will play a big part in gaining members to UKIP. It's obvious he has a big following and is clearly an intellegant individual (I've even seen some recommendation for him to have some sort of social media department)

2018-06-24 14:06:53 UTC

Yeah, he might become leader, but not now

2018-06-24 14:11:06 UTC

Very, Very, Very, Very, Very, Very, Very, Very, very, Very, Very, Very, Very, Very, unlikely.

2018-06-24 14:11:19 UTC

As for the reasons I've already stated

2018-06-24 14:11:35 UTC

But hey, who am I to oppose people's absurd fantasies

2018-06-24 14:14:31 UTC

Nah, it's possible

2018-06-24 14:14:44 UTC

If it's going to know or not, we don't know

2018-06-24 14:17:03 UTC

Of course it's possible, anything is possible and this is no exception but be realistic

2018-06-24 14:17:42 UTC

I'm not going to copy and paste my earlier points so you can go and read my many reasons why it is highly unlikely he will become leader Never Mind become a candidate

2018-06-24 14:18:12 UTC

I am, did you ever imagined sargon joining ukip?

2018-06-24 14:19:01 UTC

No I didn't but to join UKIP you don't have to go through a very strict requirement and experience process

2018-06-24 14:19:14 UTC

Joining UKIP and standing for leader are two very different things

2018-06-24 14:20:18 UTC

And that's just becoming a candidate. The members still have to vote for you and obviously I explained earlier why that more than likely won't go in his favour

2018-06-24 14:23:47 UTC

Sargon's not interested in political power tho

2018-06-24 14:23:52 UTC

so it shouldn't be much of a problem

2018-06-24 14:24:07 UTC

That's what I said at beginning. It's a big joke, a meme

2018-06-24 14:24:16 UTC

Well, I wouldn't say it's only a meme

2018-06-24 14:24:35 UTC

I think he feels UKIP is a good way to go if he's gonna subscribe to an existing party and try and reform it

2018-06-24 14:24:47 UTC

But he's consistent in not *wanting* to be a leader-person

2018-06-24 14:25:08 UTC

Oh yeah no sorry I meant him doing a coup for leadership is a meme haha

2018-06-24 14:26:00 UTC

Yeah for sure

2018-06-24 14:26:24 UTC

If anyone's gonna coup for UKIP leadership @Count Dankula might, eh Mr.M

2018-06-24 14:47:05 UTC

Yeah count will try it for a joke lmao but actually count is quite sensible when it comes to real politics

2018-06-24 14:47:28 UTC

At the march for free speech in London he delivered a good speech along with Gerard batten afterwards and they seemed to get on well

2018-06-24 14:48:05 UTC

Also it helps that sargon and PJW met Gerard yesterday or day before so things are looking good and professional

2018-06-24 14:50:03 UTC

Carl and Mark for UKIP Propaganda team

2018-06-24 14:58:07 UTC

Sargon is a good behind the scenes person and people engagement officer

2018-06-24 14:58:42 UTC

ye

2018-06-24 15:00:54 UTC

Agreed

2018-06-24 15:14:37 UTC

@UKEEP๐ŸŒท
I don't think it will be a coup, if he tries to be a leader, it will be after the current one leaves

2018-06-24 15:30:29 UTC

The current one is leader until next April I believe

2018-06-24 15:30:59 UTC

And that's if the party decides to not hold a leadership election which it could very well not

2018-06-24 15:31:30 UTC

But if it did then count, sargon or PJW or even milo would not be able to stand as they wouldn't of been a member for over a year

2018-06-24 15:31:45 UTC

And then if a new leader comes in it's a 4 year term

2018-06-24 15:31:51 UTC

Yeah, thought he would stay longer

2018-06-24 15:31:59 UTC

So we're looking at minimum 2023

2018-06-24 15:32:05 UTC

Yep

2018-06-24 15:32:05 UTC

Oh well, politics are the long gameโ„ข

2018-06-24 15:32:13 UTC

literally *the* long game

2018-06-24 15:32:15 UTC

Anyway, if he tries, it won't be anytime soon

2018-06-24 15:32:22 UTC

That's my main point

2018-06-24 15:32:30 UTC

True. We weren't sure we was gonna still be a party this April

2018-06-24 15:32:34 UTC

We nearly went under

2018-06-24 15:33:05 UTC

hey lookit you

2018-06-24 15:33:07 UTC

you've got colour

2018-06-24 15:33:11 UTC

you can embed photos an shit now

2018-06-24 15:33:32 UTC

Oh shit lnao

2018-06-24 15:33:36 UTC

I didn't even realise

2018-06-24 15:33:38 UTC

FINNALY

2018-06-24 15:49:23 UTC

`c o l o u r e d p e r s o n`

2018-06-24 15:55:32 UTC

Get

2018-06-24 15:55:34 UTC

Them

2018-06-24 15:55:38 UTC

OUT

2018-06-24 16:43:35 UTC

vee calls out theralphretard

2018-06-24 17:46:14 UTC

This guy puts out quality content

2018-06-24 18:46:44 UTC

```zpe - Today at 7:34 AM

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2018-06-24 18:47:02 UTC

yeah

2018-06-24 18:47:03 UTC

true

2018-06-24 18:48:56 UTC

but muh rich people

2018-06-24 18:54:08 UTC

I don't understand it either

2018-06-24 18:54:11 UTC

This one gets the noggin joggin

2018-06-24 18:54:25 UTC

Almost as If this was rigged

2018-06-24 18:54:32 UTC

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm <:GWgoaThinken:405753076432109573>

2018-06-24 18:54:41 UTC

*Almost*

2018-06-24 18:55:51 UTC

the MHP is a bunch of loud-mouthed fascist traitors that are going to be shot as soon as Erdogan has ultimate power

2018-06-24 19:23:30 UTC

NUH UH

2018-06-24 19:23:32 UTC

POLLS WERE WRONG

2018-06-24 19:23:34 UTC

MAGA

2018-06-24 19:23:36 UTC

i mean

2018-06-24 19:23:38 UTC

MTGA

2018-06-24 19:23:46 UTC

i mean

2018-06-24 19:23:50 UTC

KTG

2018-06-24 19:23:54 UTC

..

2018-06-24 20:23:13 UTC

@franti reports of voter fraud and Erdogan has over 80%

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/460540425133096960/unknown.png

2018-06-24 20:23:19 UTC

Really gets the nogging jogging

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