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we will cut off your Johnson Lewbowski

2018-03-24 13:58:30 UTC

Which do you think will start a career in politics first? Tommy or Sargon?

2018-03-24 13:58:38 UTC

Tommy

2018-03-24 13:58:48 UTC

I just feel like Sargon will avoid it

It'll be someone else

2018-03-24 13:59:10 UTC

Sargon would be good at it

2018-03-24 13:59:11 UTC

but

2018-03-24 13:59:15 UTC

He seems to not want it

2018-03-24 13:59:45 UTC

Also politics is dirty

2018-03-24 13:59:50 UTC

they will dig up a whole heap of shit on him

2018-03-24 14:00:02 UTC

Most if not all of Tommy's shit is already out in the open

Sargon is correct. He says I will support someone

he has said too much and he has a wife and kid

2018-03-24 14:01:23 UTC

British parliament always struck me as a bit of a circus, with all the shouting and disorderly conduct.

2018-03-24 14:01:30 UTC

but I guess that's the tradition

2018-03-24 14:01:56 UTC

I'm watching Tommy's archived stream, he looks like a politician already.

2018-03-24 14:02:07 UTC

far cry from the extremely respectful tone that's here, which is not mirrored anywhere in Danish society, except perhaps amongst diplomats

2018-03-24 14:02:43 UTC

@DanielKO Have you watched some of his videos on his YouTube channel? He only has like 10 videos on there or something, I went through the other week and watched most of them. They are worth a watch. Especially the Muslim one and the Lord Pearson one.

2018-03-24 14:02:48 UTC

parliament here is the only place where honorifics are still used

2018-03-24 14:03:08 UTC

outside of letters from the state

2018-03-24 14:03:34 UTC

I know him since he was in the Rebel Media, but I never cared too much about British politics.

our Parliament is designed to be disrespectful but very polite, it's hard to explain

2018-03-24 14:04:08 UTC

it doesn't seem polite at all

you open with something very polite

2018-03-24 14:04:41 UTC

it seems rude and crass

2018-03-24 14:05:22 UTC

must be an anglo thing :p

the member for WHEREVER

2018-03-24 14:06:10 UTC

I think Tommy should focus more on the practicalities of what he wants to accomplish. Drop the "Muslims are inherently savages" aspect, and instead firmly impose British law; and any Muslim that wants Sharia, is then welcome to leave, or suffer the consequences from the law of the land. Something like that.

2018-03-24 14:06:55 UTC

So you didn't watch his interview with the Muslim guy then?

2018-03-24 14:07:14 UTC

Not yet.

2018-03-24 14:07:20 UTC

He speaks to the things you are talking about in part

2018-03-24 14:08:14 UTC

although, even though the Muslim is supposed to be very much pushing that ISIS is Islam and all that shit he does seem to be giving excuses to Islam a lot and Tommy seems to go along with it.

2018-03-24 14:08:25 UTC

The "Most Notorious Muslim" one. Just started it now.

2018-03-24 14:08:31 UTC

because he is Shia

2018-03-24 14:08:35 UTC

and ISIS is sunni

2018-03-24 14:08:42 UTC

no that isn't entirely it

2018-03-24 14:08:44 UTC

He wants to change the scripture. That's heresy, enjoy getting hand and feet from opposite sides chopped off.

2018-03-24 14:08:54 UTC

it's definitely a major part of it

2018-03-24 14:08:58 UTC

Like he claimed that Muhammad wasn't fucking a 6 year old or a 9 year old

2018-03-24 14:08:59 UTC

and

2018-03-24 14:09:08 UTC

he claims the entire reason this is pushed, even when you ask Imams

2018-03-24 14:09:14 UTC

is because they want you to believe his wife was pure

2018-03-24 14:09:16 UTC

and a virgin

2018-03-24 14:09:33 UTC

They think being a virgin outweighs having sex with a 6 year old

2018-03-24 14:09:34 UTC

apparently

2018-03-24 14:09:35 UTC

Yet, Muhammad said Aisha was still playing with dolls when he married her.

2018-03-24 14:09:36 UTC

is his excuse

2018-03-24 14:09:57 UTC

He will tell you those books were written 100 years after he died

2018-03-24 14:10:08 UTC

So "they don't know"

2018-03-24 14:10:16 UTC

Which is another heresy.

2018-03-24 14:10:37 UTC

I thought the guy was supposed to be redpilled on Islam but he pretty much just gives excuses for it the whole way through.

2018-03-24 14:10:48 UTC

cause he is outspoken when terrorism happens

2018-03-24 14:10:53 UTC

and he says yes it is because of Islam

2018-03-24 14:10:57 UTC

it is in the book and justifies it

2018-03-24 14:11:32 UTC

"I've been made victorious with terror."

2018-03-24 14:12:51 UTC

I just find it silly that he can arrive at the conclusion that a lot of parts of his faith are ridiculous, but then not take the logical last step and discard it entirely. But I suppose if it were that easy, there wouldn't be any muslims left.

2018-03-24 14:13:50 UTC

he just does what everyone else does, and makes up his own way of "interpreting" things, so he can ignore all the bad shit

2018-03-24 14:14:08 UTC

Eh, shit's goofy

2018-03-24 14:14:21 UTC

Who has the coolest looking god of the monotheists?

2018-03-24 14:16:13 UTC

if Yehova made man in the image of himself, he'd look like some mono-browed middle-easterner. So, not him?

2018-03-24 14:18:05 UTC

lol

2018-03-24 14:19:46 UTC

The whole problem is, if you think you have the authority to edit the scriptures on a whim, they have no authority; thus, they have no meaning.

2018-03-24 14:20:29 UTC

Like that one Bishop on the 2nd century that decided he was going to discard the Old Testament, and change the New Testament to remove all references to the Old.

2018-03-24 14:22:18 UTC

So far, the only reasoning I've seen for justifying the change in Islam has been "to make it compatible with western civilization."

2018-03-24 14:22:40 UTC

Which is good for people that like the western civilization, but not very appealing for Muslims.

2018-03-24 14:23:26 UTC

That australian shia imam that tommy was talking to spoke in a time-frame of hundreds of years, iirc

2018-03-24 14:25:01 UTC

that "reform" would be impossible for a long time. He advocated for discarding the hadiths entirely

2018-03-24 14:28:53 UTC

so he's effectively useless

2018-03-24 14:29:11 UTC

as are all other present-day muslim "reformists"

2018-03-24 14:30:46 UTC

The hadiths are the only documentation about the life of Muhammad. The Quran commands Muslims to use Muhammad's life as a guide to live their own lives.

2018-03-24 14:31:07 UTC

So with no hadiths, the Quran is incomplete.

2018-03-24 14:31:36 UTC

Do you feel, like I did, that Tommy is just going along with what he is saying for the most part?

2018-03-24 14:32:47 UTC

That's not what that guy argued though @DanielKO

2018-03-24 14:33:21 UTC

he did say that there were only like 1 million muslims worldwide who'd agree with his specific way of thinking

2018-03-24 14:33:28 UTC

so again, pretty useless fellow

2018-03-24 14:34:19 UTC

>He advocated for discarding the hadiths entirely

2018-03-24 14:34:26 UTC

I don't know what Tommy was thinking, but if I were to guess, he was just trying to be respectful and hopeful that people like this guy would somehow gain a measure of influence

2018-03-24 14:34:28 UTC

I'm not going to watch the whole 50 min.

2018-03-24 14:34:58 UTC

I think Tommy just used that to show he has support from "some" Muslims.

2018-03-24 14:35:09 UTC

that's probably part of it

2018-03-24 14:35:42 UTC

I think both of them were right on wahabbi sunni islam being the main problem

2018-03-24 14:37:43 UTC

The Lord Pearson video is also good since he is actually talking with someone directly involved in UK politics and has been for a very long time.

2018-03-24 14:37:44 UTC

it's been a while since I watched it, so I can't remember his argumentation for discarding the hadiths. I don't recall what kind of reasoning he used, you'd have to look for the specific part

2018-03-24 14:37:46 UTC

About Islam

2018-03-24 14:40:05 UTC

Thing is, Islam must lose any and all protection status.

2018-03-24 14:40:10 UTC

oof

2018-03-24 14:41:00 UTC

Americans and their corruption of the word "liberal"

2018-03-24 14:41:05 UTC

Conservatives dont promote fear

2018-03-24 14:41:11 UTC

lol

2018-03-24 14:41:26 UTC

Moral panic originates from cons

2018-03-24 14:41:39 UTC

Videogames are evil

2018-03-24 14:41:49 UTC

That is a liberal position now.

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