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I don't know why science as a field can't get their shit together on dietary recommendations. They swing like crazy.
probably because agencies promulgating recommendations all have a "comment period" where industry reps take them out for dinner for a couple months
when left to my own devices I basically think gnolls and weston price (the man, not the organization) are right and not too many others
yarfy's brahmin diet seemed legit as hell until I started developing gingivitis
and losing strength
still makes sense as emergency food but that's about it IMO
I don't buy the argument that people who ate nothing but meat and vegetables basically since forever would somehow become sick on a diet of meat and vegetables
you should read taubes. very in line with price
if any research showing meat is bad for you is convincing at all, it's for cured meat and maaaybe red meat, but I eat chicken anyway so I don't care
and people say "just because they ate that way forever doesn't mean it's optimal," but if you stop and think about it, yes it kinda does mean it's optimal, because why would they not be naturally selected to be maximally vital on the available food? we see it in nature all the time, why are we special?
oh right, man is just a naturally shitty animal that gets diseases from eating what's naturally available
while every other animal is perfectly healthy and lean and muscular on a diet of whatever is available
just the very idea that humans would be optimally healthy only with advanced industrial agriculture transporting fresh fruits, vegetables and grains all over the planet on demand is retarded
where I come from, the naturally available foods are basically avocados, acorns, rabbits and deer
literally like 4 ingredients
and indians were living there healthy for thousands of years
I'm glad you're speaking my language about this now
humans eat meat
then industrial food came along and gave them holy white man vegan food like grains, sugar etc., and now they are all diabetic and on death's door by 40
the ancient Aryans ate meat
this can get some brahmins very mad
if you show them in their own shastras
lots of doublethink about it
yes, the ancient aryans were still basically mastodon hunters
look at how tall and lean these redskins are, I have never seen a single modern mexican that thin ever
and I grew up around thousands of them
they are all obese with double chins and guts, even the lightweights
but remember eating deer will kill you because of some alarmist stuff that says you will get heart disease, even if you have no family history of coronary artery disease
hate to bring him up, but yarfy even once admitted to me that original brahmins were extremely carnivorous
@Deleted User 57835c2c How much do you weigh? 200 g is an insane amount of whey
that's way too much
*whey* too much
har har har
How were you consuming it? In a protein shake?
mostly mixed into food
at the time my base food was lentils+rice+butter or coconut milk+protein powder, then spiced heavily
but even eating that much protein, my gains were gradually disappearing
and I began developing gingivitis and brittle hair and other issues even though I was supplementing vitamins and tracking micros on cronometer
I had no energy even though I was slamming caffeine
did you see a doctor
then I switched back to a retardedly simple diet of like... 3/4 plate vegetables, 1/4 plate chicken/eggs/butter and now I'm entirely fine
I don't even eat much and I am entirely fine
on paper the amount of protein I eat vs my weight and physical workload should have me dying of overtraining, yet I am entirely fine
you will peak early
and then that's pretty much it
what do you mean peak early
you gain pretty much all you can in 1-2 years
and then whatever you do just keeps it there
more or less
that's how the whole industry works
off people who start to work out
I do my stuff by trial and error
all I know really is the history of things I have tried vs how it turned out
I don't even know what the science or fitness youtubers or whatever say on this topic anymore
I saw a few pics of Cristiano Ronaldo recently
dude is jacked to a level that's become obviously unnatural
size is definitely a false goal
he used to be thin
now does Cristiano Ronaldo work out his upper body hardcore in the gym?
I wouldn't think so
it doesn't make sense to
for a football player
I am one of those guys who actually does have the genetics to be stupid strong, but I do not look like a bodybuilder and never will
you already have most of your strength
if you're already really strong
then it may be the case
I can shoulder press 200 at least
but I have only been intermittently able to even go to a gym
I suspect I still have a lot left on the table, because I have been eating like shit and only in the gym every other month and still lifting in those sorts of numbers
but at my best I look like this
not like any bodybuilder
stocky and barrel chested, slightly wide hipped and moderately lean at best
I am kind of excited to see if I can max out on my genes in the next couple years, maybe add 50 lbs onto lifts and be satisfied
actually pretty much looking like hackenschmidt would be my ideal goal
natives in Arizona went through a well-documented and recent fattening
right when they transitioned away from their indigenous diets
this basically says he lived on dairy and plants
11 pints of raw milk a day plus plants
1) Don't trust that shit
of course if I had legit dairy I could probably do the same, that's a far more real diet than what I was doing
dude like him were carnies
2) It's almost certainly all his genetics
3) I have suspicions about some things people may have taken before steroids
e.g. I know people used cocaine as a fat burner
I'm sure PEDs did not begin with steroids
I weigh 175 and have weighed roughly 175 for the past ten years
some people consumed a testicle preperation
probably not effective
but makes you think at least
bull's balls soup
this dude for sure, nothing iffy
I could push it and hit 200 maybe but I doubt I could hit 200 lean
these guys followed diets from hindus
is that great gama
he's only 5'7 though
Gama had a very nutritious diet. He used to have 7.5 liters of milk each day. He used to have lots of fruits, and a pound and a half of crushed almond blended with fruit juices to drink. He focused on having a strong digestion and metabolism.
I wonder if the milk has growth hormones that adult humans can absorb
dairy can be a suitable replacement for meat and eggs if you supplement with liver once in a while
and which then work on them
so in massive quantities
you'd be having cow made IGF
I don't trust modern dairy now though
pretty out there, but it adds up
in that these factors do exist in cow milk
I get jacked easy off cottage cheese and yogurt
and various mammalian hormones cross over
insulin is insulin
pig or human
have you goys ever heard this argument: "you aren't supposed to drink cow milk, it's designed for baby cows not for humans"
yes and I crush it with "sorry nigger, I am white, if I wasn't supposed to drink it I would not have adult lactase persistence"
I rarely talk to other people
heard means read on the internet of course
that one always drove me nuts before I became a complete enough person to recognize that most people are fucking idiots
okay I have to go write 750 words I'll be back shortly
@UOC what I ended up doing is never talking nutrition with anybody but carjack and my wife
I basically make retards think I just eat whatever I want and if I do anything unusual it's just because I have odd cravings
and don't like what most people like
while in my own head I'm running experiments and tracking them week to week
in secret spreadsheets
"nigga how come u always eat lentils?"
"Oh this? I dunno I've been liking them lately, and hey they're cheap" (Captain's log: after 100 days, I've observed the following pros and cons...)
that basically got everyone off my back forever
I have never had another diet related nag session IRL ever again
also deflecting by saying I'm not in the mood or not hungry or I just ate
it's shameful how bad fitness forums even are anymore, I just posted a thread somewhere asking about growing forearms and spergs posted saying "I jacked off a lot LOL"
and if that's fitness boards, how good will normal places be?
and normal people?
@fallot I am slowly starting to deeply believe that humor is a medium for evil a lot of the time. Part of the evil of this time seems to be people who treat everything irreverently and don't take anything seriously including themselves
Abu Huraira reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Do not laugh too much. Verily, too much laughter will deaden the heart.”
my religion says similar
joking (especially satire) conceals an inability to experience the sacred and numinous
notice liberal devils are always the satirists, classically]
it's an inside joke at this point right
Ping pong is great
Sharpens the mind
do you have an irc?
discord is ghey
irc.gnaa.press #amerika IS TO BE THE IRC AFTER WE'RE NOT HUNGOVER
WE MADE IT TEMPORARILY FEARING DELETION OF OUR DISCORD BY ARCHJEW JASON CITRON.
what do u guys think
about someone driving a car into the leftits
is it justified
If they are busy attacking me, yes.
@!!Selling 25k ip EUW accs for 9€ should ask if its right or wrong, plenty of things can be justified in certain circumstances
And the album art sucks too
Re: leftists, car:
I think there's two questions - one is "is it good?" and the other is "is it justified?" or more specifically, "can it be justified to the masses?"
it's certainly morally good and even necessary, as each and every single Leftists wants us and everyone who even looks like us dead, and our entire way of life destroyed, they are enemy combatants and traitors, so their deaths are always good. It is zero sum; any time a leftist is hurt, it necessarily benefits us
every time a liberal stubs their toe on their ikea furniture, it helps the white race
whether or not it is "justifiable," i.e. whether or not it is possible to restate the situation in a way that makes normal fucking retards /agree/ that it was good, that's probably pretty possible, yes
however it's quite clear looking at the press that it will not /be justified/, i.e., it is explained in such a way that demonizes the event by every outlet trusted with the task of explaining current events to the public
not all leftists want to kill us though
yes they do
they hold beliefs mandating it
you cannot believe in diversity without desiring white genocide
Well then there are few true leftists
you cannot believe in tolerance without wanting to unseat standards and those who uphold them
no, there are many leftists, you simply haven't taken their ideas to their logical conclusion
let's even get into the details, it's an important learning exercise. What, according to you, do leftists believe?
Well i live in australia so
many leftists over here
leftists believe everyone is acceptable
leftists believe POCs are acceptable and should never be denied, so they want you geographically displaced
they believe white-POC interbreeding is okay if not good, so they want to see your race obliterated
they believe faggots are okay, so they want to see your race become hellbound sodomites and child molesters
and also by extension they want to see your children molested
just that one sentence, "everyone is acceptable," proves this conclusively to me
I don't even have to go as far as implying they would allow pedophiles or murderers, because I know in practice most do not
just the groups I know they in actual fact want to "accept" is enough to prove the above
so they are enemies and their deaths are always morally good
it's like muslims
they are defined as muslims because they believe in a religion that says I and all like me should be killed
and, on top of that, those beliefs have been acted on before many times
therefore, clearly, nuking Mecca unprovoked would be a clear cut case of self defense
even white muslims?
they have the same beliefs as us in some respects
if they could only save a white christian or a brown muslim, who would they save?
white but thats not what i said
I'm talking about if the white muslim was deciding
where do their loyalties lie?
no idea not one of them lol
until that question is figured out, we can't know what to do with them
or what would be ideal anyway
Islam is not about killing all non-muslims, that would be highly impractical
in recent years, a new picture is emerging in the western consciousness of Islam
but for many decades, even centuries, while the relationship was not friendly by any means
I sense a grudging respect, in the sense of respecting a barbarian horde
I think the paradigm shifted since that jew wrote his clash book
I bet Anglin would be a cool friend
Did anyone get redpilled from the Trayvon episode?
Anyone in here?
Sometimes the media really oversteps and goes with blatant lies
Last time this happened across the board in my memory is Trayvon. Now it is happening again with Charlotesville.
I like Islam in that I l like many small components of it I have encountered
I don't begrudge anyone a warlike nature
I don't know what specifically red pilled me. sequence of concurrent events in grad school
maturity in myself, a break up that led me to realize I was approaching sex wrong, exposure to idiots at the highest level of my field, reading dissident philosophy like Juan Ortega y Gasset and de Maistre and other dudes the cathedral ignores for obvious reasons in favor of more tiresome Derrida
"...ideology is a trap. Ideology pushes you to follow bad leaders who are going nowhere. Ideology teaches you to join failing organizations and dedicate your lives to lost causes. "
I didn't see you had pasted that already
Islam isnt any more warlike than most of humanity since forever. I think that has become attached on since the last century particularly.
I think that bit is wrong
It is a criticism misfire
Ideology isnt the issue for him
But a certain puritan attitude
Prozak redpilled me in 2009 when I was looking for metal reviews