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2017-08-17 00:30:00 UTC

seems retarded

2017-08-17 00:30:47 UTC

I don't know why science as a field can't get their shit together on dietary recommendations. They swing like crazy.

2017-08-17 00:31:14 UTC

probably because agencies promulgating recommendations all have a "comment period" where industry reps take them out for dinner for a couple months

2017-08-17 00:32:15 UTC

when left to my own devices I basically think gnolls and weston price (the man, not the organization) are right and not too many others

2017-08-17 00:32:40 UTC

yarfy's brahmin diet seemed legit as hell until I started developing gingivitis

2017-08-17 00:32:46 UTC

and losing strength

2017-08-17 00:33:11 UTC

still makes sense as emergency food but that's about it IMO

2017-08-17 00:34:03 UTC

I don't buy the argument that people who ate nothing but meat and vegetables basically since forever would somehow become sick on a diet of meat and vegetables

2017-08-17 00:34:15 UTC

you should read taubes. very in line with price

2017-08-17 00:34:26 UTC

if any research showing meat is bad for you is convincing at all, it's for cured meat and maaaybe red meat, but I eat chicken anyway so I don't care

2017-08-17 00:36:03 UTC

and people say "just because they ate that way forever doesn't mean it's optimal," but if you stop and think about it, yes it kinda does mean it's optimal, because why would they not be naturally selected to be maximally vital on the available food? we see it in nature all the time, why are we special?

2017-08-17 00:36:21 UTC

oh right, man is just a naturally shitty animal that gets diseases from eating what's naturally available

2017-08-17 00:36:50 UTC

while every other animal is perfectly healthy and lean and muscular on a diet of whatever is available

2017-08-17 00:40:05 UTC

just the very idea that humans would be optimally healthy only with advanced industrial agriculture transporting fresh fruits, vegetables and grains all over the planet on demand is retarded

2017-08-17 00:40:33 UTC

where I come from, the naturally available foods are basically avocados, acorns, rabbits and deer

2017-08-17 00:40:41 UTC

literally like 4 ingredients

2017-08-17 00:40:50 UTC

and indians were living there healthy for thousands of years

2017-08-17 00:40:53 UTC

I'm glad you're speaking my language about this now

2017-08-17 00:41:02 UTC

fish swim

2017-08-17 00:41:05 UTC

birds fly

2017-08-17 00:41:11 UTC

humans eat meat

2017-08-17 00:41:32 UTC

then industrial food came along and gave them holy white man vegan food like grains, sugar etc., and now they are all diabetic and on death's door by 40

2017-08-17 00:41:43 UTC

the ancient Aryans ate meat

2017-08-17 00:41:51 UTC

this can get some brahmins very mad

2017-08-17 00:41:55 UTC

if you show them in their own shastras

2017-08-17 00:42:03 UTC

lots of doublethink about it

2017-08-17 00:42:31 UTC

yes, the ancient aryans were still basically mastodon hunters

2017-08-17 00:42:47 UTC

look at how tall and lean these redskins are, I have never seen a single modern mexican that thin ever

2017-08-17 00:42:53 UTC

and I grew up around thousands of them

2017-08-17 00:43:11 UTC

they are all obese with double chins and guts, even the lightweights

2017-08-17 00:43:32 UTC

but remember eating deer will kill you because of some alarmist stuff that says you will get heart disease, even if you have no family history of coronary artery disease

2017-08-17 00:45:25 UTC

hate to bring him up, but yarfy even once admitted to me that original brahmins were extremely carnivorous

2017-08-17 00:45:36 UTC

@Deleted User 57835c2c How much do you weigh? 200 g is an insane amount of whey

2017-08-17 00:45:42 UTC

about 220

2017-08-17 00:45:47 UTC

yeah

2017-08-17 00:45:53 UTC

that's way too much

2017-08-17 00:46:00 UTC

*whey* too much

2017-08-17 00:46:04 UTC

har har har

2017-08-17 00:47:03 UTC

How were you consuming it? In a protein shake?

2017-08-17 00:47:27 UTC

mostly mixed into food

2017-08-17 00:47:33 UTC

ew

2017-08-17 00:47:47 UTC

at the time my base food was lentils+rice+butter or coconut milk+protein powder, then spiced heavily

2017-08-17 00:48:14 UTC

but even eating that much protein, my gains were gradually disappearing

2017-08-17 00:48:41 UTC

and I began developing gingivitis and brittle hair and other issues even though I was supplementing vitamins and tracking micros on cronometer

2017-08-17 00:48:49 UTC

I had no energy even though I was slamming caffeine

2017-08-17 00:49:18 UTC

did you see a doctor

2017-08-17 00:49:24 UTC

then I switched back to a retardedly simple diet of like... 3/4 plate vegetables, 1/4 plate chicken/eggs/butter and now I'm entirely fine

2017-08-17 00:49:34 UTC

I don't even eat much and I am entirely fine

2017-08-17 00:49:55 UTC

on paper the amount of protein I eat vs my weight and physical workload should have me dying of overtraining, yet I am entirely fine

2017-08-17 00:50:43 UTC

@Deleted User 57835c2c training naturally

2017-08-17 00:50:46 UTC

you will peak early

2017-08-17 00:50:51 UTC

and then that's pretty much it

2017-08-17 00:51:04 UTC

what do you mean peak early

2017-08-17 00:51:15 UTC

you gain pretty much all you can in 1-2 years

2017-08-17 00:51:22 UTC

and then whatever you do just keeps it there

2017-08-17 00:51:40 UTC

more or less

2017-08-17 00:51:48 UTC

that's how the whole industry works

2017-08-17 00:51:53 UTC

off people who start to work out

2017-08-17 00:51:55 UTC

I do my stuff by trial and error

2017-08-17 00:52:09 UTC

all I know really is the history of things I have tried vs how it turned out

2017-08-17 00:52:25 UTC

I don't even know what the science or fitness youtubers or whatever say on this topic anymore

2017-08-17 00:52:26 UTC

I saw a few pics of Cristiano Ronaldo recently

2017-08-17 00:52:37 UTC

dude is jacked to a level that's become obviously unnatural

2017-08-17 00:52:50 UTC

size is definitely a false goal

2017-08-17 00:52:52 UTC

he used to be thin

2017-08-17 00:53:12 UTC

now does Cristiano Ronaldo work out his upper body hardcore in the gym?

2017-08-17 00:53:15 UTC

I wouldn't think so

2017-08-17 00:53:18 UTC

it doesn't make sense to

2017-08-17 00:53:20 UTC

for a football player

2017-08-17 00:53:27 UTC

I am one of those guys who actually does have the genetics to be stupid strong, but I do not look like a bodybuilder and never will

2017-08-17 00:53:53 UTC

you already have most of your strength

2017-08-17 00:53:59 UTC

if you're already really strong

2017-08-17 00:54:06 UTC

then it may be the case

2017-08-17 00:54:28 UTC

I can shoulder press 200 at least

2017-08-17 00:54:43 UTC

but I have only been intermittently able to even go to a gym

2017-08-17 00:55:13 UTC

I suspect I still have a lot left on the table, because I have been eating like shit and only in the gym every other month and still lifting in those sorts of numbers

2017-08-17 00:55:17 UTC

but at my best I look like this

2017-08-17 00:55:33 UTC

not like any bodybuilder

2017-08-17 00:57:16 UTC

stocky and barrel chested, slightly wide hipped and moderately lean at best

2017-08-17 00:57:54 UTC

I am kind of excited to see if I can max out on my genes in the next couple years, maybe add 50 lbs onto lifts and be satisfied

2017-08-17 00:58:28 UTC

actually pretty much looking like hackenschmidt would be my ideal goal

2017-08-17 00:59:42 UTC

natives in Arizona went through a well-documented and recent fattening

2017-08-17 00:59:55 UTC

right when they transitioned away from their indigenous diets

2017-08-17 01:01:01 UTC

this basically says he lived on dairy and plants

2017-08-17 01:01:13 UTC

11 pints of raw milk a day plus plants

2017-08-17 01:01:22 UTC

1) Don't trust that shit

2017-08-17 01:01:24 UTC

of course if I had legit dairy I could probably do the same, that's a far more real diet than what I was doing

2017-08-17 01:01:27 UTC

dude like him were carnies

2017-08-17 01:01:28 UTC

I don't

2017-08-17 01:01:49 UTC

2) It's almost certainly all his genetics

2017-08-17 01:01:59 UTC

3) I have suspicions about some things people may have taken before steroids

2017-08-17 01:02:06 UTC

e.g. I know people used cocaine as a fat burner

2017-08-17 01:02:09 UTC

I'm sure PEDs did not begin with steroids

2017-08-17 01:02:14 UTC

I weigh 175 and have weighed roughly 175 for the past ten years

2017-08-17 01:02:14 UTC

some people consumed a testicle preperation

2017-08-17 01:02:21 UTC

probably not effective

2017-08-17 01:02:23 UTC

lmao

2017-08-17 01:02:25 UTC

but makes you think at least

2017-08-17 01:02:29 UTC

bull's balls soup

2017-08-17 01:03:54 UTC

this dude for sure, nothing iffy

2017-08-17 01:03:55 UTC

I could push it and hit 200 maybe but I doubt I could hit 200 lean

2017-08-17 01:04:10 UTC

these guys followed diets from hindus

2017-08-17 01:04:17 UTC

is that great gama

2017-08-17 01:04:20 UTC

yeah

2017-08-17 01:05:03 UTC

he's only 5'7 though

2017-08-17 01:05:32 UTC

Gama had a very nutritious diet. He used to have 7.5 liters of milk each day. He used to have lots of fruits, and a pound and a half of crushed almond blended with fruit juices to drink. He focused on having a strong digestion and metabolism.

2017-08-17 01:05:59 UTC

I wonder if the milk has growth hormones that adult humans can absorb

2017-08-17 01:06:01 UTC

dairy can be a suitable replacement for meat and eggs if you supplement with liver once in a while

2017-08-17 01:06:01 UTC

and which then work on them

2017-08-17 01:06:05 UTC

so in massive quantities

2017-08-17 01:06:11 UTC

you'd be having cow made IGF

2017-08-17 01:06:17 UTC

I don't trust modern dairy now though

2017-08-17 01:06:20 UTC

pretty out there, but it adds up

2017-08-17 01:06:28 UTC

in that these factors do exist in cow milk

2017-08-17 01:06:38 UTC

I get jacked easy off cottage cheese and yogurt

2017-08-17 01:06:43 UTC

and various mammalian hormones cross over

2017-08-17 01:06:47 UTC

insulin is insulin

2017-08-17 01:06:50 UTC

pig or human

2017-08-17 01:06:52 UTC

have you goys ever heard this argument: "you aren't supposed to drink cow milk, it's designed for baby cows not for humans"

2017-08-17 01:07:05 UTC

yeah

2017-08-17 01:07:11 UTC

yes and I crush it with "sorry nigger, I am white, if I wasn't supposed to drink it I would not have adult lactase persistence"

2017-08-17 01:07:15 UTC

I rarely talk to other people

2017-08-17 01:07:16 UTC

so no

2017-08-17 01:07:25 UTC

heard means read on the internet of course

2017-08-17 01:07:35 UTC

that one always drove me nuts before I became a complete enough person to recognize that most people are fucking idiots

2017-08-17 01:07:55 UTC

yes hello

2017-08-17 01:09:02 UTC

okay I have to go write 750 words I'll be back shortly

2017-08-17 01:10:01 UTC

@UOC what I ended up doing is never talking nutrition with anybody but carjack and my wife

2017-08-17 01:10:23 UTC

I basically make retards think I just eat whatever I want and if I do anything unusual it's just because I have odd cravings

2017-08-17 01:10:39 UTC

and don't like what most people like

2017-08-17 01:11:00 UTC

while in my own head I'm running experiments and tracking them week to week

2017-08-17 01:11:05 UTC

in secret spreadsheets

2017-08-17 01:11:35 UTC
2017-08-17 01:11:54 UTC

"nigga how come u always eat lentils?"

"Oh this? I dunno I've been liking them lately, and hey they're cheap" (Captain's log: after 100 days, I've observed the following pros and cons...)

2017-08-17 01:13:30 UTC

that basically got everyone off my back forever

2017-08-17 01:13:40 UTC

I have never had another diet related nag session IRL ever again

2017-08-17 01:14:03 UTC

also deflecting by saying I'm not in the mood or not hungry or I just ate

2017-08-17 01:24:34 UTC

it's shameful how bad fitness forums even are anymore, I just posted a thread somewhere asking about growing forearms and spergs posted saying "I jacked off a lot LOL"

2017-08-17 01:24:49 UTC

and if that's fitness boards, how good will normal places be?

2017-08-17 01:24:52 UTC

and normal people?

2017-08-17 01:25:30 UTC

@fallot I am slowly starting to deeply believe that humor is a medium for evil a lot of the time. Part of the evil of this time seems to be people who treat everything irreverently and don't take anything seriously including themselves

2017-08-17 01:36:34 UTC

Abu Huraira reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, β€œDo not laugh too much. Verily, too much laughter will deaden the heart.”

2017-08-17 01:46:11 UTC

my religion says similar

2017-08-17 01:52:34 UTC

Trv

2017-08-17 01:54:30 UTC

joking (especially satire) conceals an inability to experience the sacred and numinous

2017-08-17 01:57:13 UTC

notice liberal devils are always the satirists, classically]

2017-08-17 02:18:16 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267086373285134338/347564759085875221/Screenshot_20170816-201755.png

2017-08-17 02:19:33 UTC

it's an inside joke at this point right

2017-08-17 02:26:27 UTC

of course

2017-08-17 02:26:43 UTC

> big
> lean
> natty
pick 2

2017-08-17 02:29:23 UTC

Altfitness

2017-08-17 02:43:51 UTC

Ping pong is great

2017-08-17 02:43:56 UTC

Sharpens the mind

2017-08-17 03:01:56 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267086373285134338/347575750250987520/Charlottesville_summed_up.jpg

2017-08-17 03:28:42 UTC

AMERIKAAAAAA

2017-08-17 03:28:49 UTC

do you have an irc?

2017-08-17 03:28:54 UTC

discord is ghey

2017-08-17 03:30:52 UTC

they do indeed, ask @Mother for it.

2017-08-17 03:34:02 UTC

HI MOTHER

2017-08-17 04:03:19 UTC

HI

2017-08-17 04:06:08 UTC

irc.gnaa.press #amerika IS TO BE THE IRC AFTER WE'RE NOT HUNGOVER

2017-08-17 04:06:34 UTC

WE MADE IT TEMPORARILY FEARING DELETION OF OUR DISCORD BY ARCHJEW JASON CITRON.

what do u guys think

about someone driving a car into the leftits

leftists*

is it justified

2017-08-17 06:03:40 UTC

Probably

2017-08-17 06:13:05 UTC

If they are busy attacking me, yes.

2017-08-17 06:22:39 UTC

@!!Selling 25k ip EUW accs for 9€ should ask if its right or wrong, plenty of things can be justified in certain circumstances

2017-08-17 06:22:49 UTC

its wrong

2017-08-17 06:23:32 UTC

^

2017-08-17 06:57:56 UTC

relinking cause

2017-08-17 09:17:41 UTC

And the album art sucks too

2017-08-17 10:46:14 UTC

Re: leftists, car:

2017-08-17 10:46:35 UTC

I think there's two questions - one is "is it good?" and the other is "is it justified?" or more specifically, "can it be justified to the masses?"

2017-08-17 10:47:36 UTC

it's certainly morally good and even necessary, as each and every single Leftists wants us and everyone who even looks like us dead, and our entire way of life destroyed, they are enemy combatants and traitors, so their deaths are always good. It is zero sum; any time a leftist is hurt, it necessarily benefits us

2017-08-17 10:48:31 UTC

every time a liberal stubs their toe on their ikea furniture, it helps the white race

2017-08-17 10:49:24 UTC

whether or not it is "justifiable," i.e. whether or not it is possible to restate the situation in a way that makes normal fucking retards /agree/ that it was good, that's probably pretty possible, yes

2017-08-17 10:50:08 UTC

however it's quite clear looking at the press that it will not /be justified/, i.e., it is explained in such a way that demonizes the event by every outlet trusted with the task of explaining current events to the public

2017-08-17 10:53:55 UTC

not all leftists want to kill us though

2017-08-17 10:53:59 UTC

yes they do

2017-08-17 10:54:04 UTC

they hold beliefs mandating it

2017-08-17 10:54:15 UTC

you cannot believe in diversity without desiring white genocide

2017-08-17 10:54:29 UTC

Well then there are few true leftists

2017-08-17 10:54:29 UTC

you cannot believe in tolerance without wanting to unseat standards and those who uphold them

2017-08-17 10:54:43 UTC

no, there are many leftists, you simply haven't taken their ideas to their logical conclusion

2017-08-17 10:57:15 UTC

let's even get into the details, it's an important learning exercise. What, according to you, do leftists believe?

2017-08-17 10:57:15 UTC

Well i live in australia so

2017-08-17 10:57:30 UTC

many leftists over here

2017-08-17 10:58:05 UTC

leftists believe everyone is acceptable

2017-08-17 10:59:09 UTC

exactly

2017-08-17 10:59:27 UTC

leftists believe POCs are acceptable and should never be denied, so they want you geographically displaced

2017-08-17 10:59:40 UTC

they believe white-POC interbreeding is okay if not good, so they want to see your race obliterated

2017-08-17 11:00:01 UTC

they believe faggots are okay, so they want to see your race become hellbound sodomites and child molesters

2017-08-17 11:00:14 UTC

and also by extension they want to see your children molested

2017-08-17 11:00:30 UTC

just that one sentence, "everyone is acceptable," proves this conclusively to me

2017-08-17 11:00:48 UTC

I don't even have to go as far as implying they would allow pedophiles or murderers, because I know in practice most do not

2017-08-17 11:01:06 UTC

just the groups I know they in actual fact want to "accept" is enough to prove the above

2017-08-17 11:02:19 UTC

agreed

2017-08-17 11:02:27 UTC

so they are enemies and their deaths are always morally good

2017-08-17 11:07:18 UTC

it's like muslims

2017-08-17 11:07:44 UTC

they are defined as muslims because they believe in a religion that says I and all like me should be killed

2017-08-17 11:07:54 UTC

and, on top of that, those beliefs have been acted on before many times

2017-08-17 11:08:39 UTC

therefore, clearly, nuking Mecca unprovoked would be a clear cut case of self defense

2017-08-17 11:09:32 UTC

even white muslims?

2017-08-17 11:09:43 UTC

yes

2017-08-17 11:09:46 UTC

they have the same beliefs as us in some respects

2017-08-17 11:10:13 UTC

if they could only save a white christian or a brown muslim, who would they save?

2017-08-17 11:10:30 UTC

white but thats not what i said

2017-08-17 11:10:41 UTC

I'm talking about if the white muslim was deciding

2017-08-17 11:10:48 UTC

where do their loyalties lie?

2017-08-17 11:11:00 UTC

no idea not one of them lol

2017-08-17 11:11:19 UTC

until that question is figured out, we can't know what to do with them

2017-08-17 11:11:25 UTC

or what would be ideal anyway

2017-08-17 12:27:20 UTC

Islam is not about killing all non-muslims, that would be highly impractical

2017-08-17 12:27:57 UTC

in recent years, a new picture is emerging in the western consciousness of Islam

2017-08-17 12:28:16 UTC

but for many decades, even centuries, while the relationship was not friendly by any means

2017-08-17 12:28:30 UTC

I sense a grudging respect, in the sense of respecting a barbarian horde

2017-08-17 12:28:33 UTC

both sides

2017-08-17 12:28:59 UTC

I think the paradigm shifted since that jew wrote his clash book

2017-08-17 12:29:02 UTC

I bet Anglin would be a cool friend

2017-08-17 13:10:54 UTC

Did anyone get redpilled from the Trayvon episode?

2017-08-17 13:11:00 UTC

Anyone in here?

2017-08-17 13:11:35 UTC

Sometimes the media really oversteps and goes with blatant lies

2017-08-17 13:13:15 UTC

Last time this happened across the board in my memory is Trayvon. Now it is happening again with Charlotesville.

2017-08-17 13:51:51 UTC

I like Islam in that I l like many small components of it I have encountered

2017-08-17 13:52:09 UTC

I don't begrudge anyone a warlike nature

2017-08-17 13:53:48 UTC

I don't know what specifically red pilled me. sequence of concurrent events in grad school

2017-08-17 13:55:54 UTC

maturity in myself, a break up that led me to realize I was approaching sex wrong, exposure to idiots at the highest level of my field, reading dissident philosophy like Juan Ortega y Gasset and de Maistre and other dudes the cathedral ignores for obvious reasons in favor of more tiresome Derrida

2017-08-17 14:28:14 UTC

"...ideology is a trap. Ideology pushes you to follow bad leaders who are going nowhere. Ideology teaches you to join failing organizations and dedicate your lives to lost causes. "

2017-08-17 14:28:40 UTC

Oh

2017-08-17 14:28:49 UTC

I didn't see you had pasted that already

2017-08-17 14:28:51 UTC

Islam isnt any more warlike than most of humanity since forever. I think that has become attached on since the last century particularly.

2017-08-17 14:28:55 UTC

Yes but

2017-08-17 14:29:03 UTC

I think that bit is wrong

2017-08-17 14:29:16 UTC

It is a criticism misfire

2017-08-17 14:29:25 UTC

Ideology isnt the issue for him

2017-08-17 14:29:33 UTC

But a certain puritan attitude

2017-08-17 14:29:38 UTC

Prozak redpilled me in 2009 when I was looking for metal reviews

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