he said he was tested as a sociopath

So what proceeds from the orientation of cultivation of virtue

Sociopathy is not understood even by most psychiatrists/psychologists

a checklist is not enough

you can't be tested for sociopathy

There proceeds something, let's say brotherhood for a start, with a different set of values

or if you can, it's not via a self report checklist

Well I mean a leftist beheld to virtue ethics would even agree

Leftist order of things is deficient in many respects

I mean their predominant theory of egalitarianism is the driven by how to manage the interests of a brotherhood, or rather, a community

Enlisted = commoners, auxiliaries = officers, guardians = generals

Tabooed so to speak

Leftist idea of community is all inclusive

It's everybody

Good morning @fallot

So as soon as we are speaking of such an abstract mass of people, and even more hopelessly abstractly drawn principles of "human rights"

To establish values is impossible

Since we have mandatory inclusion of everybody, and mandatory transfer of resources to everybody

We don't really have any foundation to establish anybody's values, since they are preciselly NEEDED thanks to exclusivity and competition

hi @spaceplacenta

I want to include in my group people that I think will benefit this very potential group, in relation to those who are outsiders

sorry I missed all your greets

I brought up leftism just to point out that the cultivation of virtue can be used towards a variety of ends

@fallot Yes, I am interested in sociopathy. Why? Because I have run into it brutally first-hand.

someone connected to you or someone who was a victim connected to you?

leftist selection of values is crudely fit withing designations of "good people" and "bad people"

@fallot You are right, the checklist thing is only a way to confirm something that you just feel. You can feel the evil. if you know what I mean.

I do, I do know, well I'm starting to

I've never had to deal with a sociopath, but these people embody literal evil

good people are essentially those who do not cause discomfort to the plurality, and bad people are those who do

Someone I know and I thought was a friend. But who is now victimizing the daughter of one of my best friends.

I don't really want to critique left and right

Hai @fallot 🤗

have you happened on John Craig's articles on various sociopaths and sociopathy in general @Jake Saga

I just want to know what a proper elite would go with the cultivation of virtue and how/why

they are very enlightening

especially the case for Bill Clinton being a sociopath

(and by extension, Hillary)

fallot you didn't answer my question about creativity and decision

@fallot The tell tale sign to me is endless lying. and when confronted about the lie, more lying after a very convincing mea culpa. That's part of it. INn the case of my socipathic friend, he's also become more drawn to literally evil, including the Illuminati, mafia, violence, and strangely: he now worships the Jews. I kid you not.

Yeah, that's really it

Lies on lies on lies

@fallot I will look up the articles, thanks.

can I get back to you @༺པརབྱར།བསངཇ༻

what do you mean look them up

Yes

I'll link you dammit

you must be an old ass dude

@fallot I mean I'll google them.

I know what you mean

Damn spitfire this happy Friday

I know how to find articles. 😉

are you, incidentally, old

by "look them up" I mean use a modern search engine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f229_OV4P3Y

yes that's how I understood it

anyway, never mind that

Do you have potato ears @Jake Saga ?

Only sociopaths lie for no reason at all

http://justnotsaid.blogspot.co.uk/2010/08/sociopath-alert-bill-clinton.html

@fallot Also, another sign is the secret goal of the sociopath to hurt innocent good people. When I wasn't arround, he called my young son "a bastard" and scared and scarred him.

shot in the dark, 42

yeah they get their kicks from it

I am an old guy. I am 48. Does that matter?

this is why I think BPD is also sociopathy

not at all, was just curious

My brother is BPD I am pretty sure, but I am not an expert.

Yeah potato ears

So I have an extra dose.

as the label is, in my belief, wrong

How many hairs do you average in one ear?

BPD would cover both sociopaths and non-sociopath

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@spaceplacenta I don't understand the question.

he's just messing with you

Put your index finger in your left ear and gimme a rough estimate

Please do read the Bill Clinton article when you have some time @Jake Saga

I think you may get something out of it

interesting... I will. Today or tomorrow.

Cheers

My concern is great.

So are you a mormon as well?

@fallot the sociopath in question is involved with literal violent criminals and Illuminati types. Dangerous.

I am not a mormon.

Illuminati types?

Tell me more

And yes I do think these people are organized

why shouldn't they be?

over the span of human history, even creatures who are absolutely self intereste

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@fallot The father of my sociopathic friends criminal hometown best buddy told him that he is in the Illuminati , or an org of some kind like that.

He even has a freaky torture dungeon in the basement.

my "friend" saw it.

This is my current topic of interest

the family routinely threatens to kill or hurt those who go against them in business.

are you familiar with Vigilant Citizen

that's another thing, sociopathy seems to run in families

via abuse

and probably also via a hereditary element

My socipathic friend is married, but claimed he's leaving his wife for my devout Catholic friend's daughter. The mafia type offered to have his current wife "offed" supposedly. Enough details of these sick PPL? 😉