Arguably if something is direct/immediate, there is little use in creating a model of it

That is true. It is right there to be reflected on.

@redpillavatar Have all of those reddits been banned? Maybe a replacement will crop up then if anybody wants to bother.

Impressions don't come from theorizing; in order to be called an impression, it must come from very little effort.

Forgot to address that

If you're saying that art comes from impressions, then I will take this in support of my position

cheers

An impression can come from anything. It can even come from inside of your own head. Just because it can lead to expression in art does not mean that it is correct.

it can't come from theorizing since a theory results from conscious thought

Thought can lead to an impression on the nature of a subject.

well then you mean something else by the word impression

Correct. I don't mean just that an external thing impresses on another, I mean an idea. Really, not even necessarily an idea. It can be a feeling about something, an unformed thought in the back of the head. A theme on the form and nature of a subject. The human being does this all of the time. In response to the external as well as the internal.

Fuck the universe!

Tom of Finland had a similar thought.

how do you get an unformed thought out of engaging with formed thoughts and evidence ?

People do it all the time. Haven't you ever struggled with wrapping your head around something?

ostensibly, a theory is about something and results from conscious effort put into thinking about that something. You're telling me that by engaging with the thinking about something that we can get an idea about that something that's unrelated to the thinking?

Or not have a complete idea. Not have a complete impression. Not have a full conceptualization. An incomplete thought. A train of thinking that doesn't go anywhere and doesn't complete. An incomplete conclusion. The very process is muddled and vague. Or even, there is a conclusion in there. There is a knee jerk reaction and it goes without understanding, without verbalization.

Might I also note that you are the one who associates abstraction with intellectual thought.

because it's the fact of the matter

The point of an impression is that it's not a struggle to comprehend.

An impression can arise from a struggle to comprehend.

Dude it's in the definition

A strong effect produced on the intellect, emotions and conscience. That does not mean that when one is in thought, or when one is struggling to understand something, that the thinking itself does not lead to the same effects.

You said first you meant impression as an idea, albeit incomplete, unformed, etc. But just now you reference impression as an affect.

the context is shifting around

I'm stupid but not that stupid

A thought from a thought from a thought from a thought. Kind of like an echo, within an echo, within an echo. Spectra within spectra. Or maybe I just wasn't clear about the the specificity of how I used the word?

dude brha im viiglatce why arent u surfong on the waves with me rbahhhh

listen here boy

i don't have anything really to say

HAIL SATAN

GOD IS NOT DEAD

FOR ALL OF US

@diversity_is_racism Full of Grace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUTW0wbjhxk

I just don't think you modeled this correctly out of the concepts you're using

Shit happens

Let's surf

Eat tameles

tamales

Jesus

Maybe not. I sure as hell couldn't really find the right words most of the time anyway because we have very different views anyway. I like tamales.

Tamales are brown magic.

LOOK MUCH IS MY ARMOR

I CAN SHOW YOU ALL

THE WALLS THAT MAY BE BUILT

BUT MOSTLY MOST OF ALL

All this started because I thought the effort put into thinking about modern nonsense trends in physics (the ones profagonist brought up) could be used as inspiration for art and music.@༺པརབྱར།བསངཇ༻

THERE'S A WALL OF WORDS

AROUND MY HEART

WHICH IS MY SOUL

WHICH IS MY ALL

And it is a dissertation on Observer's Effect.

GOD IS NOT DEAD

FOR ALLLLLLLLL OF US

God is just in that damn machine or something.

im trying to typify this argument through the beautiful poetry of dhruvid tibet

There is art theory though no?

People major in the shit anyway

Alt Righti is pathetic

there i said it

all these photos of don draper and 50's, impressionist paintings, white girls in wheat fields, donald trumpery, mike pencery and marine le-pennery makes me wanna puke

these are the entryists that brett warned us about

hahaha they're not entryists

they're what always existed

after 50 years of ferocious intellectual debates people are still stuck defending fucking moral objectivism and shit

they're not looking to subvert the legitimacy of the movement, since there really is no movement. alt-right is too wide to really be suggestive of any motion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k23PLEuG-h8

this is the only movement we've ever needed

@MRB I see what you did there and yes, they are. I like them anyway.
@༺པརབྱར།བསངཇ༻ Yep. A lot of good it does them now.

@vry_o Agreed.

Bring back the Kings.

i have to close twitter tab it's depressing

All orgies of leftist thought are depressing.

i already miss the days of kekist shitposting

Oh shit, they left? Trump is making the Alt Right lazy.

@-A They are quite tasty.

yep

typical vargish overconfident one-liner "wisdom"

What is with calling it "thulean" perspective? Further, what in the world would a typical mongrel want to protect with civilization? Or maybe he thinks it was just an excuse to put on airs all day?

THULEAN = HYPERBOREAN

Yes but, he then says that mongrels invented civilization. What Thulean would say that?

Thulean truthtelling

Bah!! I reject the notion.

Perhaps too modern of a sense of what mongrelization is.

He thinks that civilization is compensation for weakness

Ah, that too.

Lack of harmony with the environment

Protection from the elements AND darwinism.

One would wonder if beavers are weak because they build dams or whatever by that logic

But I don't think he includes small scale civilization like homesteads and towns in that definition

He is probably clinging to the fact that the Romans were Etruscan and possibly early Greeks mixed. Therefore, bring on the beige race and Obamacare!!

Varg is an anarcho primitivist basically

Which is OK, he has a point here and there

Yeah he's gay

But calling civilization "mongerl invention' has to be the dumbest thing i have heard for the last 2 years

What do you guys think about niggers?

Some people have a really narrowed thinking process