it's part of the appeal to elites

that normal people "dont get" modern art

whereas a work of beauty is instantly accessible due to the force of its beauty

the lowest person can see it and gain something, even if they do not appreciate its ultimate depth

it's "concept art" that is entirely opaque, and no one really gets it, they just like the exercise of nodding and pretending they get it with a group of likeminded people

and these people, in my view, tend to be elites

there is no true postmodern kitsch either

THINK OF IT LIKE ART ROCK

maybe kitsch level art

IT SEEMS ELITE

BUT REALLY IS SIMPLISTIC

LIKE NEWER GORGUTS

SO

IT ALLOWS THE RISE OF FALSE ELITES

BASED ON POPULARITY/MONEY AND NOT QUALITY

(THESE TWO ACT AS OPPOSITES IN A SOCIAL CONTEXT)

MODERN ART IS SOCIAL ART

SOMETHING TO CHATTER ABOUT

I'll accept it's that, but it's not something for the crowd

it's deliberately not for the crowd, but may carry that conceit, in an inverted fashion

getting into modern art is becoming part of a certain club

ESSENTIALLY

LIKE POSEURS/HIPSTERS AND TREND BANDS

WE SEE THE SAME THING IN METAL

but it's not generalized to clubs in general

it's a very particular club

THREE-CHORD "ESOTERIC" WAR METAL

IS CELEBRATED AS ELITE

is it? It is celebrated by insular clubs as superior, but it isn't widely accepted as being quality or elite or superior

whereas modern art is, even if people don't appreciate it

the situation woud be similar if you had that war metal stuff

and on top of that everyone acknowledged that war metal was the bees knees

while not liking it or getting it

I don't see that as the case

THOSE WHO APPRECIATE MODERN ART

ARE A SMALL QUASI-ELITE

BASED ON THE COMMERCIAL VALUE OF THE ART

BECAUSE EVEN IF PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE IT, THEY DEFER TO IT

AND MARGINALIZE THOSE WHO DO NOT

FOR EXAMPLE US

I think that's the main difference, the deference

BUT TAKE THE BLACK METAL EXAMPLE

(DEFERENCE = THE DEMOCRATIZATION; CANNOT OPPOSE WHAT THE HERD LIKES!)

the imposition of the standard as default is what makes it different from simply clubs putting shit on pedestals

why would you say herd to a top down phenomenon?

herd effects may keep the illusion going

where normal people police themselves in keeping up the facade

but beyond that? I don't see how that works out

HERDS CREATE TOP-DOWN PHENOMENA

OUT OF THEIR PREFERENCES

WHICH ARE MOSTLY DESIGNED TO AVOID WHAT OFFENDS THEM

NORMAL PEOPLE ARE MOSTLY INERT TO ART ANYWAY

THEY LIKE SIMPLE SONGS, PRETTY PAINTINGS, NICE ARCHITECTURE

THIS IS WHY ARCHITECTURE IS QUEEN OF THE ARTS

REGULAR PEOPLE CAN APPRECIATE IT

BECAUSE ITS FUNCTION IS APPARENT

with dalits, all is about apparence

we need to acknowledge the realities of art nowadays

im not saying "modern art" mind you because modern art ceased to be contemporary

modern art is the art of the past century

nowadays, we are in the era of proper dissolution of the art as a form

the so called high art today is nothing but a class signalling tool for bourgeoisie and jews

the so called rebellious art is *passe*

as evola curiously noted in his last interview, the so called "abstract" art ceased to have the "existential' function it had for the artists back in 1920s and 1930s

we have today a completet and total artistic nihilism, where everything in art ceased to have any proper meaning

and this is a reality, not a personal estimate of the contemporary's art value

one must differentiate between the two

so since no art today has or is capable of being valuable to anybody, lacking, just as society, any reference points

there is no purpose anymore in artistic poseuring at all

one should enjoy art in the same way he enjoys women, namely, as a passing pleasure and nothing else, since simulating any other approach is just that, simulation

this is why at leasts when it comes to music, I am not a "genre" person, since it has no meaning at all

for me hence, it's either the art that can arouse in me some fond memories or produce certain pleasing experiences, or the kind of art that can be stimulating in psycho-sensory way, which is why i enjoy psy ambient music for example

donuts man

will say more when hands free

say more bands

like Liturgy?

What Evola noted is evident now as a continuum

first, breakdown existing standards, justify as breaking out of stultifying boundaries

under that cover, break out of the very goals of truth and beauty

reduce meaning to entirely subjective

so no longer is art something that evokes a certain something, which is interpreted subjectively

but the subjective interpretation becomes the whole of the art

basically, an art shaped hole

John Cage's 4:33 of silence is probably the best example of that

the "existential" "abstract" art was just the middle of the transformation

due to its bases, the further progression into meaningless nihilism was guaranteed

Hey fallot

NOVELTY ART

"ART"

I didn't like John Cage in Mortal Kombat

yeah? Which one?

I like his projectile ball thing

You can tell by his sunglasses he's a materialist

he could just be stylish

but have the buddha nature

WOULD THE BUDDHA WEAR RAY BANS?

https://youtu.be/IvJotrdKFxs

I've listened to his like 60 times

Rest of the album is okay, nothing special for the old songs

This song encapsulates the world-spirit