Message from @diversity_is_racism

Discord ID: 307564399676358666


2017-04-28 17:08:10 UTC  

whereas a work of beauty is instantly accessible due to the force of its beauty

2017-04-28 17:08:25 UTC  

the lowest person can see it and gain something, even if they do not appreciate its ultimate depth

2017-04-28 17:09:00 UTC  

it's "concept art" that is entirely opaque, and no one really gets it, they just like the exercise of nodding and pretending they get it with a group of likeminded people

2017-04-28 17:09:07 UTC  

and these people, in my view, tend to be elites

2017-04-28 17:09:21 UTC  

there is no true postmodern kitsch either

2017-04-28 17:09:26 UTC  

THINK OF IT LIKE ART ROCK

2017-04-28 17:09:26 UTC  

maybe kitsch level art

2017-04-28 17:09:30 UTC  

IT SEEMS ELITE

2017-04-28 17:09:33 UTC  

BUT REALLY IS SIMPLISTIC

2017-04-28 17:09:35 UTC  

LIKE NEWER GORGUTS

2017-04-28 17:09:38 UTC  

SO

2017-04-28 17:09:42 UTC  

IT ALLOWS THE RISE OF FALSE ELITES

2017-04-28 17:09:47 UTC  

BASED ON POPULARITY/MONEY AND NOT QUALITY

2017-04-28 17:09:54 UTC  

(THESE TWO ACT AS OPPOSITES IN A SOCIAL CONTEXT)

2017-04-28 17:09:57 UTC  

MODERN ART IS SOCIAL ART

2017-04-28 17:10:01 UTC  

SOMETHING TO CHATTER ABOUT

2017-04-28 17:10:15 UTC  

I'll accept it's that, but it's not something for the crowd

2017-04-28 17:10:31 UTC  

it's deliberately not for the crowd, but may carry that conceit, in an inverted fashion

2017-04-28 17:10:58 UTC  

getting into modern art is becoming part of a certain club

2017-04-28 17:11:00 UTC  

ESSENTIALLY

2017-04-28 17:11:07 UTC  

LIKE POSEURS/HIPSTERS AND TREND BANDS

2017-04-28 17:11:10 UTC  

WE SEE THE SAME THING IN METAL

2017-04-28 17:11:11 UTC  

but it's not generalized to clubs in general

2017-04-28 17:11:14 UTC  

it's a very particular club

2017-04-28 17:11:14 UTC  

THREE-CHORD "ESOTERIC" WAR METAL

2017-04-28 17:11:18 UTC  

IS CELEBRATED AS ELITE

2017-04-28 17:13:09 UTC  

is it? It is celebrated by insular clubs as superior, but it isn't widely accepted as being quality or elite or superior

2017-04-28 17:13:19 UTC  

whereas modern art is, even if people don't appreciate it

2017-04-28 17:13:43 UTC  

the situation woud be similar if you had that war metal stuff

2017-04-28 17:13:51 UTC  

and on top of that everyone acknowledged that war metal was the bees knees

2017-04-28 17:13:58 UTC  

while not liking it or getting it

2017-04-28 17:14:07 UTC  

I don't see that as the case

2017-04-28 17:15:41 UTC  

THOSE WHO APPRECIATE MODERN ART

2017-04-28 17:15:46 UTC  

ARE A SMALL QUASI-ELITE

2017-04-28 17:15:50 UTC  

BASED ON THE COMMERCIAL VALUE OF THE ART

2017-04-28 17:15:57 UTC  

BECAUSE EVEN IF PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE IT, THEY DEFER TO IT

2017-04-28 17:16:01 UTC  

AND MARGINALIZE THOSE WHO DO NOT

2017-04-28 17:16:05 UTC  

FOR EXAMPLE US

2017-04-28 17:16:07 UTC  

I think that's the main difference, the deference

2017-04-28 17:16:10 UTC  

BUT TAKE THE BLACK METAL EXAMPLE

2017-04-28 17:16:21 UTC  

(DEFERENCE = THE DEMOCRATIZATION; CANNOT OPPOSE WHAT THE HERD LIKES!)