Message from @fallot

Discord ID: 307565936385196033


2017-04-28 17:11:18 UTC  

IS CELEBRATED AS ELITE

2017-04-28 17:13:09 UTC  

is it? It is celebrated by insular clubs as superior, but it isn't widely accepted as being quality or elite or superior

2017-04-28 17:13:19 UTC  

whereas modern art is, even if people don't appreciate it

2017-04-28 17:13:43 UTC  

the situation woud be similar if you had that war metal stuff

2017-04-28 17:13:51 UTC  

and on top of that everyone acknowledged that war metal was the bees knees

2017-04-28 17:13:58 UTC  

while not liking it or getting it

2017-04-28 17:14:07 UTC  

I don't see that as the case

2017-04-28 17:15:41 UTC  

THOSE WHO APPRECIATE MODERN ART

2017-04-28 17:15:46 UTC  

ARE A SMALL QUASI-ELITE

2017-04-28 17:15:50 UTC  

BASED ON THE COMMERCIAL VALUE OF THE ART

2017-04-28 17:15:57 UTC  

BECAUSE EVEN IF PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE IT, THEY DEFER TO IT

2017-04-28 17:16:01 UTC  

AND MARGINALIZE THOSE WHO DO NOT

2017-04-28 17:16:05 UTC  

FOR EXAMPLE US

2017-04-28 17:16:07 UTC  

I think that's the main difference, the deference

2017-04-28 17:16:10 UTC  

BUT TAKE THE BLACK METAL EXAMPLE

2017-04-28 17:16:21 UTC  

(DEFERENCE = THE DEMOCRATIZATION; CANNOT OPPOSE WHAT THE HERD LIKES!)

2017-04-28 17:16:27 UTC  

the imposition of the standard as default is what makes it different from simply clubs putting shit on pedestals

2017-04-28 17:16:42 UTC  

why would you say herd to a top down phenomenon?

2017-04-28 17:16:57 UTC  

herd effects may keep the illusion going

2017-04-28 17:17:08 UTC  

where normal people police themselves in keeping up the facade

2017-04-28 17:17:13 UTC  

but beyond that? I don't see how that works out

2017-04-28 17:17:35 UTC  

HERDS CREATE TOP-DOWN PHENOMENA

2017-04-28 17:17:38 UTC  

OUT OF THEIR PREFERENCES

2017-04-28 17:17:44 UTC  

WHICH ARE MOSTLY DESIGNED TO AVOID WHAT OFFENDS THEM

2017-04-28 17:17:51 UTC  

NORMAL PEOPLE ARE MOSTLY INERT TO ART ANYWAY

2017-04-28 17:18:00 UTC  

THEY LIKE SIMPLE SONGS, PRETTY PAINTINGS, NICE ARCHITECTURE

2017-04-28 17:18:05 UTC  

THIS IS WHY ARCHITECTURE IS QUEEN OF THE ARTS

2017-04-28 17:18:08 UTC  

REGULAR PEOPLE CAN APPRECIATE IT

2017-04-28 17:18:15 UTC  

BECAUSE ITS FUNCTION IS APPARENT

2017-04-28 17:34:51 UTC  

with dalits, all is about apparence

2017-04-28 18:02:43 UTC  

we need to acknowledge the realities of art nowadays

2017-04-28 18:02:56 UTC  

im not saying "modern art" mind you because modern art ceased to be contemporary

2017-04-28 18:03:05 UTC  

modern art is the art of the past century

2017-04-28 18:03:18 UTC  

nowadays, we are in the era of proper dissolution of the art as a form

2017-04-28 18:03:34 UTC  

the so called high art today is nothing but a class signalling tool for bourgeoisie and jews

2017-04-28 18:03:49 UTC  

the so called rebellious art is *passe*

2017-04-28 18:04:31 UTC  

as evola curiously noted in his last interview, the so called "abstract" art ceased to have the "existential' function it had for the artists back in 1920s and 1930s

2017-04-28 18:05:13 UTC  

we have today a completet and total artistic nihilism, where everything in art ceased to have any proper meaning

2017-04-28 18:05:24 UTC  

and this is a reality, not a personal estimate of the contemporary's art value

2017-04-28 18:05:31 UTC  

one must differentiate between the two

2017-04-28 18:06:01 UTC  

so since no art today has or is capable of being valuable to anybody, lacking, just as society, any reference points