Message from @fallot

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2017-04-28 17:06:12 UTC  

AND THEREFORE IS INHERENTLY ANTI-TECHNICAL

2017-04-28 17:06:15 UTC  

SORT OF LIKE PUNK ROCK

2017-04-28 17:06:28 UTC  

is it democratized in actuality though?

2017-04-28 17:06:38 UTC  

you would think it makes art "accessible"

2017-04-28 17:06:38 UTC  

GOOD MELODY REQUIRES UNDERSTANDING THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN NOTES PLUS THE ABILITY TO LISTEN

2017-04-28 17:06:42 UTC  

but ultimately it stays quite elite

2017-04-28 17:06:46 UTC  

IT IS DEMOCRATIZED IN AUDIENCE

2017-04-28 17:06:51 UTC  

no I really disagree

2017-04-28 17:06:53 UTC  

BUT THERE WILL ALWAYS BE ARTISTIC ELITES

2017-04-28 17:06:56 UTC  

MEANING

2017-04-28 17:07:03 UTC  

modern art is for modern elites

2017-04-28 17:07:06 UTC  

not for ordinary people

2017-04-28 17:07:07 UTC  

THERE IS NOTHING THERE WHICH HOLDS BACK A PERSON FROM APPRECIATING OR PARTICIPATING

2017-04-28 17:07:10 UTC  

ordinary people do not appreciate it

2017-04-28 17:07:12 UTC  

THE HIGH VALUE OF ART GUARANTEES THESE ELITES

2017-04-28 17:07:21 UTC  

ORDINARY PEOPLE DO NOT APPRECIATE IT, BUT IT IS ACCESSIBLE TO THEM

2017-04-28 17:07:24 UTC  

HOWEVER IT IS NOT RELEVANT

2017-04-28 17:07:27 UTC  

THUS THEY DO NOT ATTEND IT

2017-04-28 17:07:33 UTC  

THIS SEEMS PARADOXICAL BUT IS NOT

2017-04-28 17:07:35 UTC  

I don't think it's accessible to them either (or to anyone)

2017-04-28 17:07:50 UTC  

it's part of the appeal to elites

2017-04-28 17:07:57 UTC  

that normal people "dont get" modern art

2017-04-28 17:08:10 UTC  

whereas a work of beauty is instantly accessible due to the force of its beauty

2017-04-28 17:08:25 UTC  

the lowest person can see it and gain something, even if they do not appreciate its ultimate depth

2017-04-28 17:09:00 UTC  

it's "concept art" that is entirely opaque, and no one really gets it, they just like the exercise of nodding and pretending they get it with a group of likeminded people

2017-04-28 17:09:07 UTC  

and these people, in my view, tend to be elites

2017-04-28 17:09:21 UTC  

there is no true postmodern kitsch either

2017-04-28 17:09:26 UTC  

THINK OF IT LIKE ART ROCK

2017-04-28 17:09:26 UTC  

maybe kitsch level art

2017-04-28 17:09:30 UTC  

IT SEEMS ELITE

2017-04-28 17:09:33 UTC  

BUT REALLY IS SIMPLISTIC

2017-04-28 17:09:35 UTC  

LIKE NEWER GORGUTS

2017-04-28 17:09:38 UTC  

SO

2017-04-28 17:09:42 UTC  

IT ALLOWS THE RISE OF FALSE ELITES

2017-04-28 17:09:47 UTC  

BASED ON POPULARITY/MONEY AND NOT QUALITY

2017-04-28 17:09:54 UTC  

(THESE TWO ACT AS OPPOSITES IN A SOCIAL CONTEXT)

2017-04-28 17:09:57 UTC  

MODERN ART IS SOCIAL ART

2017-04-28 17:10:01 UTC  

SOMETHING TO CHATTER ABOUT

2017-04-28 17:10:15 UTC  

I'll accept it's that, but it's not something for the crowd

2017-04-28 17:10:31 UTC  

it's deliberately not for the crowd, but may carry that conceit, in an inverted fashion

2017-04-28 17:10:58 UTC  

getting into modern art is becoming part of a certain club