otherwise he needs a creator

and it dosn't apply to him

why would we hold causality binding?

God is eternal

@Somedudewithaname you are unbelievably dense

Universe can be too on certian models.

The universe is the creation

NO ezra your just an example of the dunnnig-kruger effect

God does not exist solely within the confines of our universe, therefore he is not bound by its rules

You are genuinely retarded

causality = cause and effect of space and time

I am certian I have more education than you.

This universe has those

Clearly

hey man whats with this adhom

Nothing in our world is acausal

that is fictitious

why address my character instead of the issue at hand???

thats like

You know your right

a logical fallacy man

my b

i've been trying to be better about it

you triggered me and i am sorry

but yeah beggining of the universe model isn't the only one out there

big bang and big crunch is an alternative model

Nothing in this world is acausal

Prove it

Study more quantum mechanics.

lets go Vril-ya

Schrodinger's cat is not acausal

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩]

So

let me get this strait

you think you can reach closer to god hood through evolution?

What?

I'm not a Mormon

not you hermetic

Who said they have a Godhood in front of them

Vril did

That is Mormon stuff

@Somedudewithaname I mean you can try to be *like* God, but you can never become God

It's why he wants an ethnostate so he can reach closer to god

What makes you think you'll become more god like through seletvie breeding?

the hell you gonna do?

higher intelligence, you can select for moral traits

Only select the individuals with the fittest bodies to breed?

ya, depends on your eugenics program

But how long do you think that' gonna take?

The lebensborn?

Lynn has a good book on it, 2-3 generations

although in order to perfect ourselves

forever

Also, what about bilogical limits?

we will never do it

it is a goal we will never achieve

but must strive for nonetheless

Wouldn't you be better of going a technological route?

Genetic engineering is a thing

no

What about diseases?

technocracy is the big gay

Sigh

struggle is good

I'm not gonna say ethno state is a terrible idea

being sterile stagnant machines which get software upgrades is retarded

but it seems like it's not even good for your goal

life is about struggle

adventure

Plz nietzhche

NS is a about bettering the race through struggle

not today

i have work to do

Why do you want that?

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] SN*

sn my apologies

lel

because struggle makes us stronger, better people

I can easily become stronger than you without much struggle through genetic engineeing

your gonig the slowest route posible

also are any of your studies peer reviewed by any chance?

genetic engineering *could* be considered, but the unintentional consequences generationally are a huge risk

I would consider it if we have a better way of modelling generational risk

however, I generally frown on the idea

I consider it tampering with God's creation

something we're not qualified to do

Wait you still beleive in god?

Ya

Jesus, okay///

>why bother living healthy if I can just become cyborg lmao

<:FeelsLELMan:356316501105442817>

fucking soyboys

honestly

This guy.

Yeah thats the point if your goal is theoism

@Somedudewithaname did you read what l sent you

The text is really small my dude and I'm getting sleepy

also im really concerened talking to you people can get me arested

Vril also has a bit of a victim complex

lel you wont get arrested for discord posts

I"m scared to be associated at all with some of you people

unless you like directly threaten someone by name and show evidence you are going to go through with it

Weren't you the guy who wanted to overthrow the goverment?

Internet is a wild land

<:FeelsLELMan:356316501105442817> no of course not hehehe

Actually mostly I advocate for incremental reform

No you were the one who said i threatened you when i said your ideology would die out in the next couple of decades?

you said my race would die out

I said your ideology

you basically threatened all our families

dude I think we're the same race.

by saying "you will be minorities in your own countries"

I never said that

I'm white you're an indian

I said your ideology will be a minority

indians are not white

That sounds evil

Yeah it does but i never said it

my ideology is already a minority you dumbass

i know

that was why i was confused you got so upset

Lol no one is threatening the white race

right...

you on the othe hand have said you wanted to remove me

that's why you were boasting about how we're going to become minorities

i want you to marry whoever you want and live right next to me

in the countries our ancestors built

Yea people don't try to push white guilt

NAzi's? YEs

totally

I will be glad wehen your minority

Your an even greater minority

is this guy for real

Bruh

are you actually retarded or something?

genuine question

you literally want an ethnostate in america

Even without natsoc

Genuine question what is your damage?

Fascism is still a thing

I'm always curious about the personal lives of ethno staters...or whatever you call yourself.

None. I came from an upper middle class family with a good upbringing and good education.

What happened then?

@Hadou Divinity Mercurius

What made you so afraid?

I'm not afraid.

What are you thrn?

then

I don't want to live around non whites.

Why not?

I'm gonna not judge and see where this goes.

I prefer my own people, and non whites are troublemakers.

I'm honrstly just curious.

@Hadou Divinity Mercurius sorry accidental ping

I like being around my own people

Well okay. but you clearly wouldn't say all white people are good,

some aren't intellegent. Do you like there company?

Or only educated white people/

?

Whites are usually educated

Here comes the "not all" logical fallacy which ignores statistics and evidence

What is your damage no fap?

but I don't mind stupid whites as long as they're good people

a lot of my close friends aren't big brain, but I still enjoy their company

But you think blacks are inherently bad because////

@Somedudewithaname 90 hit points per second

it's not so much they are inherently bad as they are not compatible with my people

I don't want to be around them

they are fine with their own

What makes you think all whites would benefit from that?

I don't wish them ill

because historically they have

The weird thing is I believe you don't.

and when we embraced multiracialism we have been going through massive problems

Okay, in America yes, but don't you think those had sociological factors?

no, they have done controls for economics

and other non genetic related factors

Which studies?

THe one in the bell curve?

https://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/30years/Rushton-Jensen30years.pdf

The one where I can site peer reviewed studies which call in question his methedology?

anthropology papers don't invalidate another field

you prob can't read stats anyways

I literally study papers all day.

fascinating

Granted it's mostly focused on molecular biology, but I probably have more contact with academic papers than you.

yet you don't know what dna variance is and why it's relevant to behavior/

The new evidence reviewed here points to some genetic component in
Black–White differences in mean IQ

No i do.

my argument isn't based on IQ differences between races though

I mean that is a fact

But you haven't shown me it's significant enough to show we can't for a stable society together.

but NS's are not alt right

we do not base our racialism on some sperg scientism pov

Also what about studies that show african ameican adopted children have higher iq's then thei r white conterparts?

we prefer our volk because they are our people going back thousands of years

Again what people?

we don't need to justify wanting to be around our people

Remember when the Romans thought germans were barbarians?

In the case of NS a specific ethnic group, but it can also be expanded to pan Europeanism.

@Somedudewithaname lol what no

Because of Aryanism.

I mean humans self-segregate anyway lol

Nofap please read some plutarch.

Black's adopted by white parents have slightly higher iq while growing up but it levels out with any other blacks by the time they reach adulthood, staying in below 90

Wait

Not weird to choose which group you hang out with lol

didn't europe try to kill itself twice in the last decade?

So what if they did? The Germanics weren't barbarians though they had pretty good tech. They also rekt the Romans at times. Look at Arminius.

I'm not seenig this pan european identity.

Romans were obviously impressive too though

What's your excuse for that?

it arises in places like the USA

mostly out of necessity

I'll agree barbarian was a harsh term.

BUt, I'm just not seeing where this ethnostate or solidarity comes from.

what are you even debating at this point

Barbarian was basically not a Roman for the Romans lol

you jumped from like 10 points

It seems to me like ethnostates need a really small demogrpahic though?

no

there is literally no reason to assume that

And on the real how do you just hand wave the other ethnostate attempts?

what other attempts?

Well the two large ethnostates both ended in disaster/

Germany

And Mussolini according to Nord but i'm not sure...

dude, we've had ethnostates for literally thousands of years prior to 1965

Umm, not really actually

most of those states were empires

@Somedudewithaname

I guess Chinese are a "small demographic"

an ethnostate can have a small minority of non ethnics in their country

the austro-hungarian empire had live 5 different langauge group

group

as long as they identify explicitly as an ethnicity

the Romans were an ethnic group, everyone knew what a Roman looked like

The russian empire was hugely diverse

@Somedudewithaname which is why it broke apart

they did not think the subjects of Rome were romans themselves

Lmfao

"Roman" referred to the white people who lived in Italy

not their subjects

No it didnt

yes it did

it refered to only the citizens of rome

in ancient texts you could describe someone's appearance by simply saying "he looked Roman"

>no it didn't

I live in former Austria Hungary you absolute brainlet Indian @Somedudewithaname

the rest of the italian peninsula didn't get citizenship till the social wars

LOl no fap

nobody had this retarded civnat mentality back then