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2018-10-07 07:27:56 UTC

he basically invented a new language

2018-10-07 07:28:15 UTC

nah not into theosophy

2018-10-07 07:28:16 UTC

athroposphy/theosophy ๐Ÿ‘

2018-10-07 07:28:21 UTC

the pyramid focuses the sun's energy which causes the natural water reserves below the pyramid to steam the steam is used to create electricity.

2018-10-07 07:28:25 UTC

Vedic>larper occultism

2018-10-07 07:28:27 UTC

nice "free" energy

2018-10-07 07:28:31 UTC

occultism is just a spook

2018-10-07 07:28:50 UTC

occultism is aperceptive calivoyant vision of transhumanism

2018-10-07 07:28:57 UTC

im a 3rd degree runemaster

2018-10-07 07:28:57 UTC

clarivoyany

2018-10-07 07:28:58 UTC

w.e

2018-10-07 07:29:00 UTC

it's demonic usually

2018-10-07 07:29:10 UTC

its all ideas

2018-10-07 07:29:14 UTC

ideas can be demonic

2018-10-07 07:29:17 UTC

that which is true is most useful

2018-10-07 07:29:27 UTC

Truth emanates and only comes from God

2018-10-07 07:29:32 UTC

if your ideology seeks to personally empower

2018-10-07 07:29:33 UTC

without God

2018-10-07 07:29:35 UTC

it is demonic

2018-10-07 07:29:43 UTC

personal is illusion

2018-10-07 07:29:48 UTC

it's not

2018-10-07 07:29:51 UTC

Atman and soul are existent

2018-10-07 07:29:54 UTC

there is no seperation

2018-10-07 07:30:00 UTC

God speaks to us through Person

2018-10-07 07:30:07 UTC

we cannot understand the divine in any other way

2018-10-07 07:30:17 UTC

all things are of god

2018-10-07 07:30:25 UTC

This is why there is Brahman and Krsna/Visnu. This is why there's the divinity made manifest over the years.

2018-10-07 07:30:28 UTC

we only understand god

2018-10-07 07:30:30 UTC

No, everything is not God.

2018-10-07 07:30:35 UTC

God created the world, we are not Him

2018-10-07 07:30:48 UTC

my god is almighty

2018-10-07 07:30:57 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/496515828372602890/498396802488205312/ITS_HAPPENINGGGGGG.gif

2018-10-07 07:31:00 UTC

We contain his energies, our consciousness and soul is from Him.

2018-10-07 07:31:10 UTC

lol that gif

2018-10-07 07:31:10 UTC

But we are not Him

2018-10-07 07:31:18 UTC

i fundamentally disagree

2018-10-07 07:31:23 UTC

division is maya

2018-10-07 07:31:33 UTC

we are everything in our true form

2018-10-07 07:31:40 UTC

the higher body is unity

2018-10-07 07:31:53 UTC

Krsna says it himself. The material world are like the pearls, and He is the thread which holds it together. He can manifest within the material, but is not subject to its illusion/limitations.

2018-10-07 07:32:25 UTC

The Orthodox Christian essence energy distinction is critical here to understand. Even fi you disagree with their other theology

2018-10-07 07:32:26 UTC

that seems fitting for an avatar of vishnu

2018-10-07 07:32:28 UTC

vril doent believe in the supernatural or prminitions hes not an real theist

2018-10-07 07:32:30 UTC

how has this server been able to hide from ***them*** with so many members

2018-10-07 07:32:45 UTC

If you view Atman as the essence of God, then you can argue that you yourself are a piece of God.

2018-10-07 07:32:52 UTC

We follow discord Tos

2018-10-07 07:32:56 UTC

Here on Trs

2018-10-07 07:32:56 UTC

It is not the essence, it is the energy of God.

2018-10-07 07:32:59 UTC

so if i say

2018-10-07 07:33:01 UTC

nigger

2018-10-07 07:33:04 UTC

then what

2018-10-07 07:33:08 UTC

i view everything as piece of the body of god

2018-10-07 07:33:11 UTC

Dvaita Vedanta makes the most sense.

2018-10-07 07:33:18 UTC

not even essentialistic

2018-10-07 07:33:18 UTC

That is illogical, because Maya exists

2018-10-07 07:33:26 UTC

How can God eb tricked by illusion?

2018-10-07 07:33:28 UTC

be*

2018-10-07 07:33:32 UTC

maya is an illusion part of god

2018-10-07 07:33:44 UTC

God's traits are omniscience, omnipotence and omnibenevolence

2018-10-07 07:33:46 UTC

these are invariant

2018-10-07 07:33:47 UTC

how does a hermit go mad?

2018-10-07 07:33:50 UTC

God cannot be under illusion once

2018-10-07 07:33:52 UTC

and not be in another kind

2018-10-07 07:34:01 UTC

solitude is impetus to cosmogensis

2018-10-07 07:34:01 UTC

also in your view, if the illusory world is God, then what is truth?

2018-10-07 07:34:05 UTC

how can you know what is true?

2018-10-07 07:34:17 UTC

truth is that which is most useful

2018-10-07 07:34:20 UTC

if everything is God, including illusion and lies, how do you differentiate between them?

2018-10-07 07:34:23 UTC

that is satanism

2018-10-07 07:34:23 UTC

(efficient/sustainable)

2018-10-07 07:34:29 UTC

efficiency and pragmatism

2018-10-07 07:34:34 UTC

satan is a name

2018-10-07 07:34:52 UTC

pantheism is a spook dude

2018-10-07 07:34:56 UTC

I just explained why it's contradictory

2018-10-07 07:35:00 UTC

all things are one thing

2018-10-07 07:35:04 UTC

@hemi thats easy one , just contradict yourself

2018-10-07 07:35:07 UTC

division is a spook

2018-10-07 07:35:26 UTC

@hemi If all things are one thing, then why don't we all share the traits of divinity which differentiate it?

2018-10-07 07:35:28 UTC

after that kill yourself, in a good way

2018-10-07 07:35:28 UTC

contradiction is unified in the mysteries

2018-10-07 07:35:30 UTC

Why isn't everything omniscient?

2018-10-07 07:35:32 UTC

omnipotent?

2018-10-07 07:35:34 UTC

omnibenevolent?

2018-10-07 07:35:43 UTC

contradiction is not unified

2018-10-07 07:35:49 UTC

there is some reason for reorganization

2018-10-07 07:35:53 UTC

there's nothing proving we don't live in a simulation

2018-10-07 07:35:57 UTC

<:PepeChill:378748692741750794>

2018-10-07 07:36:00 UTC

you cannot affirm logic by even acknowledging the ontology of contradiction, but then deny it entirely by saying "lol it's all one"

2018-10-07 07:36:12 UTC

The entire universe is made of a single electron moving back and forth in time and interacting with itself <:TrumpSmile:356316463490924561>

2018-10-07 07:36:14 UTC

that theology ultimately makes everything meaningless

2018-10-07 07:36:25 UTC

@Lockmarth hospitals

2018-10-07 07:36:40 UTC

It's pretty obvious that everything is *not* God

2018-10-07 07:36:46 UTC

just by using simple logic

2018-10-07 07:36:57 UTC

simulate healing

2018-10-07 07:37:00 UTC

God has traits which define the ontology of that being of Godhead.

2018-10-07 07:37:07 UTC

The physical world does not share those traits

2018-10-07 07:37:11 UTC

ontology just throws me off here

2018-10-07 07:37:11 UTC

therefore the physical maya is not God

2018-10-07 07:37:21 UTC

being, the nature of being

2018-10-07 07:37:27 UTC

Your epistemology also falls apart

2018-10-07 07:37:35 UTC

if everything is God, then does that mean lies are truth now?

2018-10-07 07:37:37 UTC

since everything is God right?

2018-10-07 07:37:46 UTC

im not understanding what ur saying.. not trying to be annoying or dumn

2018-10-07 07:37:52 UTC

hospitals spit in my mouth with that bill

2018-10-07 07:37:53 UTC

ya you're arguing monism or pantheism

2018-10-07 07:37:53 UTC

mm

2018-10-07 07:37:58 UTC

it doesn't make any sense

2018-10-07 07:38:00 UTC

hang on

2018-10-07 07:38:13 UTC

on my phone. i wanna understand u

2018-10-07 07:38:22 UTC

yh pretty damn real simulation

2018-10-07 07:38:46 UTC

I'm refuting your idea that everything is one

2018-10-07 07:38:47 UTC

dem medical bills

2018-10-07 07:38:49 UTC

everything is not one

2018-10-07 07:39:13 UTC

well i dont see how a lie cant become true if the environment changes enough etc

2018-10-07 07:39:18 UTC

this was proven wrong by Aristotle when he discussed the difference between the one and the many, and the ontology or natural being of things

2018-10-07 07:39:41 UTC

>arguing objective ttruth with a brainlet

2018-10-07 07:39:45 UTC

what ar you doing

2018-10-07 07:39:45 UTC

so for example, we know that dogs exist, but we also know that dogs have an essence to them that is apart from just the physical figure of a dog

2018-10-07 07:39:52 UTC

meh people reading it benefit too

2018-10-07 07:39:53 UTC

imo

2018-10-07 07:39:55 UTC

@Aisa im a brainlet?

2018-10-07 07:40:00 UTC

Anyone watch the McGregor fight?

2018-10-07 07:40:06 UTC

nope

2018-10-07 07:40:15 UTC

It was sad

2018-10-07 07:40:15 UTC

test wha tis 1+2

2018-10-07 07:40:28 UTC

lamp

2018-10-07 07:40:35 UTC

the answer is objectively true

2018-10-07 07:40:48 UTC

no alt universe shit

2018-10-07 07:41:32 UTC

i dont see how u refute anything i said

2018-10-07 07:41:39 UTC

You can easily disprove pantheism and monism just through the one and the many essence example.

2018-10-07 07:41:52 UTC

And in a broader sense because epistemology itself would make no sense

2018-10-07 07:41:54 UTC

essence have one source?

2018-10-07 07:42:04 UTC

and their seperations are illusory

2018-10-07 07:42:06 UTC

Yes, but that doesn't mean source = essence

2018-10-07 07:42:37 UTC

their separations are not illusory, you can prove through logic that they are not

2018-10-07 07:42:55 UTC
2018-10-07 07:42:58 UTC

go away

2018-10-07 07:43:01 UTC

no u

2018-10-07 07:43:03 UTC

im black

2018-10-07 07:43:08 UTC

negro

2018-10-07 07:43:11 UTC

shit

2018-10-07 07:43:12 UTC

hes good

2018-10-07 07:43:14 UTC

too good

2018-10-07 07:43:23 UTC

so all of existence is an extremely complex planck scale geometry

2018-10-07 07:43:30 UTC

<:FeelsFedora:356316725865611264>

2018-10-07 07:43:36 UTC

whats essential about that

2018-10-07 07:43:47 UTC

no, because things which exist have more to them than just physical pattern/substance

2018-10-07 07:44:03 UTC

there is an inherent intrinsic ontology or being to things

2018-10-07 07:44:11 UTC

this is what I speak of when I'm saying we can differentiate

2018-10-07 07:44:22 UTC

it's not an illusion, it's a metaphysical concept which is necessary

2018-10-07 07:44:37 UTC

what is actually illusion is the temporal physical world

2018-10-07 07:44:51 UTC

the metaphysics, the substrata conceptual invariant world is not illusory

2018-10-07 07:45:13 UTC

yes you argue essentialism

2018-10-07 07:45:21 UTC

ok , if you try to divide by zero you will always get infinity, no matter if you swap processors or not does that naswer your question

2018-10-07 07:45:37 UTC

i say the essential is reaction impression from planck scale reality

2018-10-07 07:45:43 UTC

machines says theres no objective truth but we create dmachines

2018-10-07 07:45:52 UTC

what is with niggers and dragon ball z???

2018-10-07 07:46:17 UTC

@hemi the holographic planck scale reality thing doesn't matter because even at the tiniest fractional sub atomic level the metaphysical invariant conceptual differentiation stuff applies

2018-10-07 07:46:19 UTC

the idea of a ball came from see a thing roll down a hill

2018-10-07 07:46:22 UTC

What is with new users and anime pfp's?

2018-10-07 07:46:29 UTC

you're just reducing your position into absurdity

2018-10-07 07:46:30 UTC

a thing rolling down a hill didnt come from the idea of a ball

2018-10-07 07:46:44 UTC

thats not absurd at all thats logic lol

2018-10-07 07:46:47 UTC

which is why atheism, agnosticism, and pantheism/monism are reductio ad absurdum positions necessarily

2018-10-07 07:47:10 UTC

they rely on deconstruction of reality to then make their position that there is unity, or that there is no absolute truth

2018-10-07 07:47:34 UTC

what other approach is there?

2018-10-07 07:47:41 UTC

yh u just triggred me

2018-10-07 07:47:45 UTC

the approach through metaphysics

2018-10-07 07:47:56 UTC

the understanding of things as more than their temporal substance

2018-10-07 07:48:07 UTC

<:GWragChad:390321737230843905>

2018-10-07 07:48:16 UTC

fucking vedics

2018-10-07 07:48:20 UTC

metaphysics is of the mind which is an emergent complexity of consciousness. this mind is negentropy

2018-10-07 07:48:28 UTC

I wanna call it wholistic, but that word has been hijacked by new age faggots

2018-10-07 07:48:42 UTC

no, it's not just a property of the brain or mind

2018-10-07 07:48:51 UTC

consciousness or Atman relies on metaphysics

2018-10-07 07:49:04 UTC

he thinks that everything being energy is reductio abusrdum

2018-10-07 07:49:10 UTC

will itself is a function of a sort of sub logos identity that we all have

2018-10-07 07:49:29 UTC

look up Aristotelian self actualization argument

2018-10-07 07:49:31 UTC

consciousness is being researched objectively now

2018-10-07 07:49:32 UTC

matter is composed of energy

2018-10-07 07:49:38 UTC

@hemi no it's not

2018-10-07 07:49:44 UTC

because consciousness cannot be understood on a relativistic basis

2018-10-07 07:49:45 UTC

yes it is

2018-10-07 07:49:52 UTC

lol sorry friend

2018-10-07 07:49:53 UTC

it again reduces into absurdity

2018-10-07 07:49:58 UTC

may i post research?

2018-10-07 07:50:05 UTC

there is plenty

2018-10-07 07:50:09 UTC

because deterministic chain of causation for impetus of neuronal firing or whatever you're looking at has no overall basis

2018-10-07 07:50:11 UTC

yh hemi is rightt though

2018-10-07 07:50:11 UTC

20 yrs of it

2018-10-07 07:50:16 UTC

it is merely a fractional analysis of a dialectical approach

2018-10-07 07:50:19 UTC

and devolves into relativism

2018-10-07 07:50:23 UTC

which doesn't bring you any knowledge

2018-10-07 07:50:28 UTC

brain scinec will btfo vedics

2018-10-07 07:50:31 UTC

it only further dissects information into blocks

2018-10-07 07:50:38 UTC

no its called orchestrated objective reduction

2018-10-07 07:50:51 UTC

consciousness is not emergent

2018-10-07 07:50:56 UTC

mind is

2018-10-07 07:51:00 UTC

ok wut budy

2018-10-07 07:51:07 UTC

yea .

2018-10-07 07:51:12 UTC

it's not objective, because you're taking subjective arbitrary points and creating a dialectic upon which you operate between these two

2018-10-07 07:51:18 UTC

that literally implausible

2018-10-07 07:51:25 UTC

it's the same thing you do metaphysically when you both affirm and deny metaphysics

2018-10-07 07:51:30 UTC

this is why modern science fails

2018-10-07 07:51:49 UTC

no there is an actual physical phenomena occuring in the microtubulin substructure of the neuron

2018-10-07 07:52:00 UTC

that leads to consciousness

2018-10-07 07:52:14 UTC

seeing you get laughed out of a science conference by atheist chads feels goodman

2018-10-07 07:52:18 UTC

@hemi No, because again you cannot link the deterministic chain

2018-10-07 07:52:27 UTC

and the hypothesis involves the copenhagen interpetation

2018-10-07 07:52:29 UTC

and if you play the atheist "brute fact" card then you'd be denying causal logic

2018-10-07 07:53:05 UTC

this isnt atheism

2018-10-07 07:53:06 UTC

you can't state that consciousness is a physical process because you'd run into the problem of determining from where impulse is ultimately tracked to the beginning of the universe

2018-10-07 07:53:09 UTC

upon which you have two options

2018-10-07 07:53:18 UTC

negentropy

2018-10-07 07:53:23 UTC

you either reduce into absurdity and reject causation itself with the infinite regression pov

2018-10-07 07:53:31 UTC

or you must accept the theistic pov

2018-10-07 07:53:37 UTC

its negentropy breh

2018-10-07 07:53:46 UTC

which ultimately explains consciousness without a physical component

2018-10-07 07:53:58 UTC

and yes i amm theistic about my negentropy nom nom

2018-10-07 07:54:10 UTC

no consciousness requires orchestration

2018-10-07 07:54:15 UTC

@hemi again you're affirming and denying logic

2018-10-07 07:54:27 UTC

@Thule-Gesellschaft [โ˜ฉ] hey Thule, sorry to bother, but do you happen to have "On Combat" pdf by Dave Grossman?

2018-10-07 07:54:31 UTC

negentropy or reversing entropy is rejecting the law of repeatability of outcome

2018-10-07 07:54:32 UTC

atheism is consciouness evolved from matter but is not matter

2018-10-07 07:54:36 UTC

which depends necessarily on metaphysics

2018-10-07 07:54:43 UTC

which you reject with your materialist conclusions

2018-10-07 07:54:43 UTC

for objective reduction to be conscious it requires orchestration

2018-10-07 07:54:57 UTC

no i dont wholly reject metaphysics

2018-10-07 07:54:57 UTC

@sasha I do not sorry

2018-10-07 07:55:19 UTC

wish i had my pc

2018-10-07 07:55:21 UTC

@hemi I'll explain consciousness and free will

2018-10-07 07:55:23 UTC

phone

2018-10-07 07:55:26 UTC

without needless scientism

2018-10-07 07:55:29 UTC

lol

2018-10-07 07:55:48 UTC

you're aware of the self actualization argument for God's necessary existence?

2018-10-07 07:56:03 UTC

youll explaine orchestrated objective reduction in the microtubulin substructure of the neuron?

2018-10-07 07:56:04 UTC

because this approach is dare I say *contingent* on your understanding of this lel

2018-10-07 07:56:09 UTC

@hemi yes

2018-10-07 07:56:18 UTC

the physical process is kind of irrelevant

2018-10-07 07:56:19 UTC

okie dokie

2018-10-07 07:56:33 UTC

you can reduce it to whatever strata of reality you want

2018-10-07 07:56:40 UTC

it doesn't change the gravitas or the logic

2018-10-07 07:56:40 UTC

Wtf?

2018-10-07 07:56:42 UTC

I think this nigga just wants to flaunt how intelligent he is

2018-10-07 07:56:47 UTC

ok i hear ya

2018-10-07 07:56:51 UTC

no

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female btw

2018-10-07 07:56:55 UTC

but no

2018-10-07 07:57:02 UTC

just passion

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