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Yes
How
We thought we would run out of uranium
through funding?
So the us gov began investing into
Alternative nuclear power
And ta da
Thorium
Making much better use of Uranium
Makes less nuclear waste
AND produce more energy
But then in the 60s
We found more uranium deposits
So we're like lol nvm we will keep the old methods
Then as nukes got more unpopular
Research really stagnated
It's funny that inefficient 60s nuclear power plants are still the safest ones
More like i wonder if hitler didnt larp around as anti jews
And introduced some sort of honorable jew program that would have gave the germans nuclear power
If he didn't go on that whole anti-jew thing, he would be a controversial figure, not a figure of disgust
Basically, the difference between Castro and Stalin
Because there were sects of jews
Who wanted to join Nazis on the earlier days
But hitler downright rejected them
climate change helps in the temperature becoming warmer
this makes girls more wet ๐
they drip like a monsoon
to stop climate change
take off your clothese
clothes
Hot
Just open up the freezer duh
Nuclear energy is a better option than renewables
change my mind
Yea but if something goes wrong
**boom**
nuclear meltdown is rare
rare
but based
It's
@Gerry nuclear plants have killed significantly less people than all the forms of energy
Even then, if we utilized Thorium it would become Impossible
We just need to fund more research about Nuclear energy instead
I agree
Every since Germany got rid of their nuclear plants they have been struggling to stop co2 out put
Nuclear power is great
Yes sir
But they technology we have now is trash
It's much more promising, would take up much more land mass than solar or wind would need to
Nobody talks about the fact that wind hurts wildlife
Yup
I agree with u
Nuke power is the way to go
But we just need to make it safer
I mean technically now It's pretty safe
But we start using Thorium then we are set.
Yea but it will rape ya if you screw up
True
It's plentiful, less radioactive
But we ainโt got the tech yet
Just fund more research
I agree we shoul
Should*
If we moved to 100% renewable do you know how much space it would have to take
Yep
Exactly
The problem with it is that It's unpopular
There is a bias about it
Yea cuz of other disasters
The china disaster could of been minimized
But It's still killed far less people
Could
But it did not
And radiation lasts a lot longer than some water
Properly managed it's not a problem
poor excuse
properly managed, coal and oil is not a problem
You can apply this to every energy producer as well
Except that's not true with coal and oil
Properly managed, coal still fucked up the health of the miners of North England
yea
Nuclear has killed significantly less people that coal has
Even with Chernobyl counted in
Techpriest made a good point one or two days ago about why Nuclear isn't used
Because other lobbies go against Nuclear
Since if we have Nuclear, Wind and Solar becomes irrelevent
Nuclear occupies less land mass
It tells you something when outdated Nuclear Plants from the 60s is still safer and more efficient than other power plants
Weather in Ohio is as unpredictable as always
Aint that the truth lmao. It reached the 60s, then snowed over the weekend, and will reach the 60s again
Lame
Opinions on this? Imo it's not bad to have more focus on climate but Corbyn is definitely just doing it cos he thinks it'll win him the young vote
@The Lemon I meam makes sense. There were eco-warriors being twats and Corbyn just loves fighting and explosions
As long as they're not done by the Government apparently!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agTMr9qITlI
I couldnt help to not share this but here
ok back to my life
climate
The earth is a social construct.
@TheBritishGamer โค๐ (Meh) I don't think the climate protests are necessarily a bad thing. Sure you can say that their being twats by blocking roads etc but it's been really effective
Likely more so than if they'd done less intrusive protests and not been disruptive
It forces people to take notice and judging by the vote today Parliament has taken notice and that's a good thing imo
I'm not saying I fully endorse their methods but it's undeniable the protests were effective
@The Lemon The first problem is that it punishes ordinary people for the actions of the rich
Japan does protests amazingly
When there is a transport strike, they let everyone go on for free
It benifits the normal people and still screws over the people the strike is targeted against
But these protests screw normal people over
There's a video of one guy shouting at the protesters because he has to get to work
He works in a clean power company
If you want people to back you up, don't make them late for work
Oh please
The Paris Agreement does nothing for climate change
China said that it might stop in 10 years time
And India said it might stop in 20 years time
wait
how would it block
okay so it's a paris agreement
agreement so anyone can quit or join anytime
ohh they want to make it into a bill
wont pass in the senate
Paris climate agreement does nothing.
Yeah
The real solution is that we invest into climate change
and progress with it
not regress
If there's too much CO2, then we will engineer a way to fix the excess CO2
Instead of trying to "reduce it by nature"
Power is the ability to impose your will upon nature.
Not have nature impose her will over you
Adaption
I think itโs been adequately demonstrated that people with the power to effect policy care more about their personal interests than anything else. The only options are to make them care about the environment - which is not within our power - or deprive them the ability to dictate policy.
duh
that's obvious
Since they are easily able to hide their motives (and even their actions) by outright secrecy or by framing their actions in a misleading way, there is no way to assure that the wrong people do not gain the ability to dictate policy, leaving us with only one viable option - have *no one* dictating policy in the broad scope. Then individual groups may seek out environmental misdeeds, prove them, and act by boycott or direct action to stop them without being roadblocked by enforcement of policies that favor the transgressor.
If you follow the money behind Democrat Politicians, the solar company and wind pay very well with their pockets
cant blame republicans if they want to go solar and wind if the companies are pocketing them as well
I donโt understand the last statement.
Republicans will support solar and wind power
if companies will pay them
but they dont
because it's more expensive to pay a republican on something against their constituent's beliefs than a democrat
unless you ever have a republican incumbent politician in a democrat state
then you might see that republican being a little more democrat
Gotcha. Well, this is what happens when we try to abdicate personal responsibility. We donโt want to deal with the problems of our world ourselves, so we make it somebody elseโs job; and the power implicit in that job doesnโt draw people who want to help humanity, it draws people who want to wield that power for personal benefit.
If it benefits them more to harm humanity, then thatโs what theyโll do. That will *always* be the case, and thus by making voting our only act of influence, weโve made ourselves impotent in effecting the change *we* want to see, and unwitting power supplies for the agendas of unscrupulous misanthropes.
"Bottled Water Ban" - Should Bottled Water Be Banned?
No, especially when you can reuse those bottles
Solar radiation managment is a scam for $ and to keep solar from taking over
@beyond_gravity Are you asking if people have the right to use violence against others for drinking bottled water? Wow. And we call these ideas โsolutionsโ?
I think the best way to help the climate is to 1) tax oil companies. they have known the harmful effects of oil long before anyone else knew but didnt care, they should pay for the damages they cause yearly. 2) stop subsidizing animal agriculture. the leading cause of climate change and arguably the hardest to fight. 3) ban single use plastic or make it cost something, take away its convenience, 4) use sustainable farming practices. No more monofarming and gmo's that exist only to take on more chemicals. 5) encourage biking over driving. Maybe do a tax cut to people that biked more or for people that get rid of their car or make bikes the more convenient objects to use on the roads. 6) stop fast fashion.
but arguably the best thing anyone any single person can do is 1 very simple easy thing
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to reduce their consumerism.
aka reduce their meat consumption, reduce the amount of clothing they purchase, reduce the amount of plastic they purchase including plastic wrapped items, reduce the amount of energy they use cooling or heating their house, etc.
Ironic
What science tells human to do is not hit our maximum potential
But limit ourselves instead
Perhaps Nietzsche was right, science is just a religion
After all it limits us
@Techpriest everything has a limit
some limits are short and easy to see others are long and even not possible to see in your lifespan
Just like my DIK
damn dude
on the short side or the long side tho ๐ค
U know it long
<:ainz:538084033410891776>
Which is why you push to the limit
Not let the limit limit you
If we continue polluting the Earth yet fix it without limiting ourselves
Then we have successfully mastered terraforming
Should we all convert to green energy as of now?
Ofc not
But 2010s green energy is more efficient than 2000s green energy
Humans have been always adapting to survive and evolve
This is our will to power our human potential
Earth literally doesnt give two shits if her atmosphere is polluted
NOBODY CARES!!!!!!!
A meteor 65 million years ago ensured a hot earth
The Earth has survived worse and this is not her worst.
Reeeeeeeeeee
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Green Energy Politicians pockets are only lined with green company money
Nothing more nothing less
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the earth will survive yes, we however will not or not as we are now
Then its the test of human potential
Do not limit yourself because you cannot overcome it
we can push the limit and can overcome but poeple don't want to
people won't give up many things necessary
So how can you expect the same when you ask people to restrict themselves
If it's choosing between restricting yourself or pushing yourself to the limit, the latter is more beneficial
I hate green energy itโs like smug energy for liberals to feel good about themselves while not addressing reality or India/China
Opinion on nuclear?
Based
We should have a variety of energy
Available
Nuclear Plants make more in less than a year of what they initially cost
Not to mention they pay HUGE propery taxes
And help the area around them
harnessing solar energy by space based installation is the best
Lmao
transitting to earth in form of high energy microwave
Hmmm
But redpilled
@Techpriest sun and wind dont kill people like nuclear does tho
GG @Will not respond, you just advanced to level 3!
What if u make the nuclear plants far away
Sun and wind cant make us enough power
@Will not respond Actually Nuclear has the least fatalities
And the amount of metrial needed to make enough sun and wind plants is crazy
Nuclear Power Plants are increadibly safe
And it would take up so much space
It's just when it does go bad, it goes very bad
Sun and ind i mean
implying nuclear plants can go bad
with today's conversion of energy
omg
yall just exposed youselfs
even with a large earthquake, the nuclear reactor will stop working
because it now needs water to generate energy rather than using water to cool down the reactor
then thats not a nuclear reactor
thats water energy
lmao
boi
you retarded
Play nice @Deleted User
not if they use SRM @karn
NUKE Power isnt safe
?
im sorry i though u had said it was safe sorry
Whats safe
Tech did say nuclear power is safe yes
The SAFEST
I never said the safest
I said it's safe enough to proceed nuclear energy
@Techpriest safe enough is obvious and doesnt mean safe
Who cares if it's not *safe*
Orange man just simply bad
If you were a noble man, the safety for all life is of no concern.
<:GWcorbinHolyFuck:384871347756728321>
noble men are scum
as said by the environmentalist
the weakest of all
as he lets nature trample him instead
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