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2019-04-26 23:47:22 UTC

Yes

2019-04-26 23:47:30 UTC

How

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We thought we would run out of uranium

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through funding?

2019-04-26 23:47:40 UTC

So the us gov began investing into

2019-04-26 23:47:45 UTC

Alternative nuclear power

2019-04-26 23:47:48 UTC

And ta da

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Thorium

2019-04-26 23:47:59 UTC

Making much better use of Uranium

2019-04-26 23:48:07 UTC

Makes less nuclear waste

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AND produce more energy

2019-04-26 23:48:43 UTC

But then in the 60s

2019-04-26 23:48:48 UTC

We found more uranium deposits

2019-04-26 23:49:01 UTC

So we're like lol nvm we will keep the old methods

2019-04-26 23:50:00 UTC

Then as nukes got more unpopular

2019-04-26 23:50:09 UTC

Research really stagnated

It's funny that inefficient 60s nuclear power plants are still the safest ones

2019-04-26 23:52:42 UTC

More like i wonder if hitler didnt larp around as anti jews

2019-04-26 23:53:04 UTC

And introduced some sort of honorable jew program that would have gave the germans nuclear power

If he didn't go on that whole anti-jew thing, he would be a controversial figure, not a figure of disgust

Basically, the difference between Castro and Stalin

2019-04-26 23:53:58 UTC

Because there were sects of jews

2019-04-26 23:54:06 UTC

Who wanted to join Nazis on the earlier days

2019-04-26 23:54:12 UTC

But hitler downright rejected them

2019-04-27 20:39:23 UTC

climate change helps in the temperature becoming warmer

2019-04-27 20:39:28 UTC

this makes girls more wet ๐Ÿ˜

2019-04-27 20:39:41 UTC

they drip like a monsoon

2019-04-27 20:40:20 UTC

to stop climate change

2019-04-27 20:40:23 UTC

take off your clothese

2019-04-27 20:40:25 UTC

clothes

2019-04-27 21:51:38 UTC

Hot

2019-04-27 23:11:27 UTC

Just open up the freezer duh

2019-04-28 18:27:58 UTC

Nuclear energy is a better option than renewables

2019-04-28 18:28:00 UTC

change my mind

2019-04-28 20:06:44 UTC

Yea but if something goes wrong

2019-04-28 20:06:54 UTC

**boom**

2019-04-28 20:16:02 UTC

nuclear meltdown is rare

2019-04-28 20:40:35 UTC

rare

2019-04-28 20:40:37 UTC

but based

2019-04-28 21:25:10 UTC

It's

2019-04-28 21:25:31 UTC

@Gerry nuclear plants have killed significantly less people than all the forms of energy

2019-04-28 21:25:51 UTC

Even then, if we utilized Thorium it would become Impossible

2019-04-28 21:26:24 UTC

We just need to fund more research about Nuclear energy instead

2019-04-28 21:26:47 UTC

I agree

2019-04-28 21:26:55 UTC

Every since Germany got rid of their nuclear plants they have been struggling to stop co2 out put

2019-04-28 21:26:57 UTC

Nuclear power is great

2019-04-28 21:27:01 UTC

Yes sir

2019-04-28 21:27:12 UTC

But they technology we have now is trash

2019-04-28 21:27:29 UTC

It's much more promising, would take up much more land mass than solar or wind would need to

2019-04-28 21:27:42 UTC

Nobody talks about the fact that wind hurts wildlife

2019-04-28 21:27:46 UTC

Yup

2019-04-28 21:27:52 UTC

I agree with u

2019-04-28 21:27:59 UTC

Nuke power is the way to go

2019-04-28 21:28:10 UTC

But we just need to make it safer

2019-04-28 21:28:38 UTC

I mean technically now It's pretty safe

2019-04-28 21:29:10 UTC

But we start using Thorium then we are set.

2019-04-28 21:29:18 UTC

Yea but it will rape ya if you screw up

2019-04-28 21:29:23 UTC

True

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It's plentiful, less radioactive

2019-04-28 21:29:30 UTC

But we ainโ€™t got the tech yet

2019-04-28 21:29:39 UTC

Just fund more research

2019-04-28 21:29:54 UTC

I agree we shoul

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Should*

2019-04-28 21:30:04 UTC

If we moved to 100% renewable do you know how much space it would have to take

2019-04-28 21:30:18 UTC

Yep

2019-04-28 21:31:14 UTC

Exactly

2019-04-28 21:31:29 UTC

The problem with it is that It's unpopular

2019-04-28 21:31:41 UTC

There is a bias about it

2019-04-28 21:32:12 UTC

Yea cuz of other disasters

2019-04-28 21:33:51 UTC

The china disaster could of been minimized

2019-04-28 21:34:00 UTC

But It's still killed far less people

2019-04-28 21:34:05 UTC

Could

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But it did not

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And radiation lasts a lot longer than some water

2019-04-28 21:34:41 UTC

Properly managed it's not a problem

2019-04-29 00:47:53 UTC

poor excuse

2019-04-29 00:48:00 UTC

properly managed, coal and oil is not a problem

2019-04-29 00:48:18 UTC

You can apply this to every energy producer as well

2019-04-29 00:55:24 UTC

Except that's not true with coal and oil

Properly managed, coal still fucked up the health of the miners of North England

2019-04-29 01:09:50 UTC

yea

2019-04-29 01:10:00 UTC

Nuclear has killed significantly less people that coal has

Even with Chernobyl counted in

Techpriest made a good point one or two days ago about why Nuclear isn't used

Because other lobbies go against Nuclear

Since if we have Nuclear, Wind and Solar becomes irrelevent

2019-04-29 01:14:20 UTC

Nuclear occupies less land mass

It tells you something when outdated Nuclear Plants from the 60s is still safer and more efficient than other power plants

2019-04-30 00:32:16 UTC

Weather in Ohio is as unpredictable as always

2019-04-30 06:33:30 UTC

Aint that the truth lmao. It reached the 60s, then snowed over the weekend, and will reach the 60s again

2019-04-30 12:05:38 UTC

Lame

2019-04-30 18:02:32 UTC

Opinions on this? Imo it's not bad to have more focus on climate but Corbyn is definitely just doing it cos he thinks it'll win him the young vote

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/518779466512596992/572845256500838400/Screenshot_20190430-190038.png

@The Lemon I meam makes sense. There were eco-warriors being twats and Corbyn just loves fighting and explosions

As long as they're not done by the Government apparently!

2019-05-01 00:03:21 UTC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agTMr9qITlI
I couldnt help to not share this but here

2019-05-01 00:03:32 UTC

ok back to my life

2019-05-01 00:03:40 UTC

climate

2019-05-01 01:35:01 UTC

The earth is a social construct.

2019-05-01 21:17:29 UTC

@TheBritishGamer โค๐Ÿ”‘ (Meh) I don't think the climate protests are necessarily a bad thing. Sure you can say that their being twats by blocking roads etc but it's been really effective

2019-05-01 21:17:48 UTC

Likely more so than if they'd done less intrusive protests and not been disruptive

2019-05-01 21:18:15 UTC

It forces people to take notice and judging by the vote today Parliament has taken notice and that's a good thing imo

2019-05-01 21:18:34 UTC

I'm not saying I fully endorse their methods but it's undeniable the protests were effective

@The Lemon The first problem is that it punishes ordinary people for the actions of the rich

Japan does protests amazingly

When there is a transport strike, they let everyone go on for free

It benifits the normal people and still screws over the people the strike is targeted against

But these protests screw normal people over

There's a video of one guy shouting at the protesters because he has to get to work

He works in a clean power company

If you want people to back you up, don't make them late for work

Oh please

The Paris Agreement does nothing for climate change

China said that it might stop in 10 years time

And India said it might stop in 20 years time

2019-05-03 15:07:46 UTC

wait

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how would it block

2019-05-03 15:07:55 UTC

okay so it's a paris agreement

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agreement so anyone can quit or join anytime

2019-05-03 15:08:17 UTC

ohh they want to make it into a bill

2019-05-03 15:08:18 UTC

wont pass in the senate

2019-05-03 15:29:07 UTC

Paris climate agreement does nothing.

Yeah

2019-05-03 15:31:21 UTC

The real solution is that we invest into climate change

2019-05-03 15:31:27 UTC

and progress with it

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not regress

2019-05-03 15:31:52 UTC

If there's too much CO2, then we will engineer a way to fix the excess CO2

2019-05-03 15:31:58 UTC

Instead of trying to "reduce it by nature"

2019-05-03 15:32:07 UTC

Power is the ability to impose your will upon nature.

2019-05-03 15:32:11 UTC

Not have nature impose her will over you

Adaption

2019-05-03 16:03:44 UTC

I think itโ€™s been adequately demonstrated that people with the power to effect policy care more about their personal interests than anything else. The only options are to make them care about the environment - which is not within our power - or deprive them the ability to dictate policy.

2019-05-03 16:03:57 UTC

duh

2019-05-03 16:03:58 UTC

that's obvious

2019-05-03 16:04:04 UTC

Since they are easily able to hide their motives (and even their actions) by outright secrecy or by framing their actions in a misleading way, there is no way to assure that the wrong people do not gain the ability to dictate policy, leaving us with only one viable option - have *no one* dictating policy in the broad scope. Then individual groups may seek out environmental misdeeds, prove them, and act by boycott or direct action to stop them without being roadblocked by enforcement of policies that favor the transgressor.

2019-05-03 16:04:19 UTC

If you follow the money behind Democrat Politicians, the solar company and wind pay very well with their pockets

2019-05-03 16:04:34 UTC

cant blame republicans if they want to go solar and wind if the companies are pocketing them as well

2019-05-03 16:05:32 UTC

I donโ€™t understand the last statement.

2019-05-03 16:42:49 UTC

Republicans will support solar and wind power

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if companies will pay them

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but they dont

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because it's more expensive to pay a republican on something against their constituent's beliefs than a democrat

2019-05-03 16:43:20 UTC

unless you ever have a republican incumbent politician in a democrat state

2019-05-03 16:43:27 UTC

then you might see that republican being a little more democrat

2019-05-03 20:33:27 UTC

Gotcha. Well, this is what happens when we try to abdicate personal responsibility. We donโ€™t want to deal with the problems of our world ourselves, so we make it somebody elseโ€™s job; and the power implicit in that job doesnโ€™t draw people who want to help humanity, it draws people who want to wield that power for personal benefit.

2019-05-03 20:33:30 UTC

If it benefits them more to harm humanity, then thatโ€™s what theyโ€™ll do. That will *always* be the case, and thus by making voting our only act of influence, weโ€™ve made ourselves impotent in effecting the change *we* want to see, and unwitting power supplies for the agendas of unscrupulous misanthropes.

2019-05-04 10:51:48 UTC

"Bottled Water Ban" - Should Bottled Water Be Banned?

No, especially when you can reuse those bottles

2019-05-04 20:04:49 UTC

Solar radiation managment is a scam for $ and to keep solar from taking over

2019-05-06 12:38:39 UTC

@beyond_gravity Are you asking if people have the right to use violence against others for drinking bottled water? Wow. And we call these ideas โ€œsolutionsโ€?

2019-05-07 00:17:23 UTC

I think the best way to help the climate is to 1) tax oil companies. they have known the harmful effects of oil long before anyone else knew but didnt care, they should pay for the damages they cause yearly. 2) stop subsidizing animal agriculture. the leading cause of climate change and arguably the hardest to fight. 3) ban single use plastic or make it cost something, take away its convenience, 4) use sustainable farming practices. No more monofarming and gmo's that exist only to take on more chemicals. 5) encourage biking over driving. Maybe do a tax cut to people that biked more or for people that get rid of their car or make bikes the more convenient objects to use on the roads. 6) stop fast fashion.

2019-05-07 00:18:08 UTC

but arguably the best thing anyone any single person can do is 1 very simple easy thing

2019-05-07 00:18:49 UTC

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2019-05-07 00:19:13 UTC

to reduce their consumerism.

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aka reduce their meat consumption, reduce the amount of clothing they purchase, reduce the amount of plastic they purchase including plastic wrapped items, reduce the amount of energy they use cooling or heating their house, etc.

2019-05-07 00:48:04 UTC

Ironic

2019-05-07 00:48:23 UTC

What science tells human to do is not hit our maximum potential

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But limit ourselves instead

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Perhaps Nietzsche was right, science is just a religion

2019-05-07 00:49:05 UTC

After all it limits us

2019-05-07 01:20:50 UTC

@Techpriest everything has a limit

2019-05-07 01:21:16 UTC

some limits are short and easy to see others are long and even not possible to see in your lifespan

2019-05-07 01:21:41 UTC

Just like my DIK

2019-05-07 01:21:48 UTC

damn dude

2019-05-07 01:21:54 UTC

on the short side or the long side tho ๐Ÿค”

2019-05-07 01:22:11 UTC

U know it long

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<:ainz:538084033410891776>

2019-05-07 01:51:27 UTC

Which is why you push to the limit

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Not let the limit limit you

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If we continue polluting the Earth yet fix it without limiting ourselves

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Then we have successfully mastered terraforming

2019-05-07 01:53:03 UTC

Should we all convert to green energy as of now?

2019-05-07 01:53:06 UTC

Ofc not

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But 2010s green energy is more efficient than 2000s green energy

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Humans have been always adapting to survive and evolve

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This is our will to power our human potential

2019-05-07 01:54:10 UTC

Earth literally doesnt give two shits if her atmosphere is polluted

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NOBODY CARES!!!!!!!

2019-05-07 01:54:29 UTC

A meteor 65 million years ago ensured a hot earth

2019-05-07 01:54:56 UTC

The Earth has survived worse and this is not her worst.

2019-05-07 01:55:14 UTC

Reeeeeeeeeee

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Reeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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Green Energy Politicians pockets are only lined with green company money

2019-05-07 01:55:32 UTC

Nothing more nothing less

2019-05-07 01:56:08 UTC

<:feelsdumbman:538083903835996176>

2019-05-07 02:11:39 UTC

the earth will survive yes, we however will not or not as we are now

2019-05-07 02:11:58 UTC
2019-05-07 02:42:06 UTC

Then its the test of human potential

2019-05-07 02:42:14 UTC

Do not limit yourself because you cannot overcome it

2019-05-07 02:50:38 UTC

we can push the limit and can overcome but poeple don't want to

2019-05-07 02:50:47 UTC

people won't give up many things necessary

2019-05-07 02:53:43 UTC

So how can you expect the same when you ask people to restrict themselves

2019-05-07 02:54:06 UTC

If it's choosing between restricting yourself or pushing yourself to the limit, the latter is more beneficial

2019-05-07 07:05:50 UTC

I hate green energy itโ€™s like smug energy for liberals to feel good about themselves while not addressing reality or India/China

2019-05-07 18:59:04 UTC

Opinion on nuclear?

2019-05-07 19:00:06 UTC

Based

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We should have a variety of energy

2019-05-07 19:00:17 UTC

Available

2019-05-07 19:00:41 UTC

Nuclear Plants make more in less than a year of what they initially cost

2019-05-07 19:00:51 UTC

Not to mention they pay HUGE propery taxes

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And help the area around them

2019-05-07 19:01:19 UTC

harnessing solar energy by space based installation is the best

2019-05-07 19:01:53 UTC

Lmao

2019-05-07 19:01:55 UTC

transitting to earth in form of high energy microwave

2019-05-07 19:02:00 UTC

Hmmm

2019-05-07 19:02:02 UTC

But redpilled

2019-05-07 20:22:25 UTC

@Techpriest sun and wind dont kill people like nuclear does tho

2019-05-07 20:22:25 UTC

GG @Will not respond, you just advanced to level 3!

2019-05-07 20:30:39 UTC

What if u make the nuclear plants far away

2019-05-07 20:30:49 UTC

Sun and wind cant make us enough power

@Will not respond Actually Nuclear has the least fatalities

2019-05-07 20:31:27 UTC

And the amount of metrial needed to make enough sun and wind plants is crazy

Nuclear Power Plants are increadibly safe

2019-05-07 20:31:35 UTC

And it would take up so much space

It's just when it does go bad, it goes very bad

2019-05-07 20:31:47 UTC

Sun and ind i mean

2019-05-07 20:54:47 UTC

implying nuclear plants can go bad

2019-05-07 20:54:51 UTC

with today's conversion of energy

2019-05-07 20:55:15 UTC

omg

2019-05-07 20:55:28 UTC

yall just exposed youselfs

2019-05-07 20:55:29 UTC

even with a large earthquake, the nuclear reactor will stop working

2019-05-07 20:56:02 UTC

because it now needs water to generate energy rather than using water to cool down the reactor

2019-05-07 20:56:31 UTC

then thats not a nuclear reactor

2019-05-07 20:56:40 UTC

thats water energy

2019-05-07 20:56:44 UTC

lmao

2019-05-07 20:56:45 UTC

boi

2019-05-07 20:56:49 UTC

you retarded

2019-05-07 21:08:08 UTC

Play nice @Deleted User

2019-05-07 21:12:03 UTC

not if they use SRM @karn

2019-05-07 21:13:06 UTC

NUKE Power isnt safe

2019-05-07 21:13:14 UTC
2019-05-07 21:15:20 UTC

@sean g<:GWczeWhat:399970544830775300>

2019-05-07 21:15:35 UTC

?

2019-05-07 21:15:35 UTC

GG @sean g, you just advanced to level 1!

2019-05-07 21:16:01 UTC

im sorry i though u had said it was safe sorry

2019-05-07 21:16:29 UTC

Whats safe

2019-05-07 21:27:33 UTC

Tech did say nuclear power is safe yes

2019-05-07 21:27:37 UTC

The SAFEST

2019-05-07 21:27:40 UTC
2019-05-07 22:05:40 UTC

I never said the safest

2019-05-07 22:05:49 UTC

I said it's safe enough to proceed nuclear energy

2019-05-08 00:14:56 UTC

@Techpriest safe enough is obvious and doesnt mean safe

2019-05-08 01:52:21 UTC

Who cares if it's not *safe*

2019-05-08 01:52:38 UTC

Orange man just simply bad

2019-05-08 01:52:40 UTC

If you were a noble man, the safety for all life is of no concern.

2019-05-08 01:52:43 UTC

<:GWcorbinHolyFuck:384871347756728321>

2019-05-08 02:16:24 UTC

noble men are scum

2019-05-08 02:41:21 UTC

as said by the environmentalist

2019-05-08 02:41:24 UTC

the weakest of all

2019-05-08 02:41:38 UTC

as he lets nature trample him instead

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