Did the new generations learn from WW1, WW2, Vietnam, The Cold War, Chernobyl etc?

I don't think they have EVEN WITH history at their disposal to learn.

dude wasnt there a LIA

like afte medieval warming period

It’s hard to believe that solar energy or *wind* energy will become a primary source in the near because theyre efficiencies are just soo bad

@Minimarshmallo They're not bad though.

The mars rover literally uses sonar panels to power it and so does the space station mate.

Near where I live, we pay the companies that maintain the wind turbines extra money to turn them off because they are generating too much power and our "transformers" can't take it.

A simple change in something like that would make clean energy sources much more reliable.

America has a vast desert and vast areas of open space they could easily fill with solar panels.

There can never be an electric grod with 100% clean energy sources unless it also has an nuclear plant. As they are "shaky" , we need to explore the science of building batteries (like Tesla has) so we can store that energy from (lets say solar panels) as they are most effective mid day

Tesla is quite big now, is it not?

It is

Amd growing...

I think it’s also to do with the cost of energy storage and the additional grid infrastructure required to connect renewables

Nuclear is renewable

nibba what

Just wait a couple of thousand years

No problems

ok yeah but the supply rate will just die instantly until another thousand years

Maybe we can make the fuel faster in the future

When we raid asteroids

yeh maybe lol

I saw this how to movie

With Bruce Willis

So I know we have the technology

And raw macho to do it

big oofers

So nuclear is cheaper

?

yes

Checkmate atheists

and generates a fuck tonne more

whereas solar panels would be stucl under the freezing ice and snow of winter

Let’s get on board the nuclear train then

I cant edit messages rip

nuclear emits no greenhouse gases oof

why do I keep on seeing them in climate chabge documentaries

Cause the anti nuke lobby are huge

And 😮 scary Nuclear is scary

Nuclear is wayy better solution that current ones (coal etc...)

1000 years is really nothing

Considering what mankind has achieved with the last 1000 years...

We will have our personal space ships by then

Lmao

personnel ships*

AI will destroy us all

with anti personnel ships

actually *personal ships

typing on a phone sucks

but

lmao

Actually it's *USS Enterprise

Lmao

*actually it's Star Destroyer*

**Actually it’s UNSC Infinity**

actually it's Super Star Destroyer

Actually millennium falcon

It's sad that some people think that nuclear energy is not clean

If it wasn't for the waste and contamination issue, it would be.

and scientists are already looking for ways to get past it/ use them somehow

just like with shale-oil ash

there have been talks to build an shale oil ash plastic granule factory

which as the name implies, uses the ash to make plastic granules

(idk if that makes sense)õ

and they are already makin a reactor in France that uses uranium so that it doesent produce any waste

@McBacoon "they are already makin a reactor in France that uses uranium so it doesn't produce waste."

Did you word that wrong or do you just not have any idea what you are talking about?

aah, my bad.. I somehow remembered wrong

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITER

but its supposed to produce hundreds of times less waste and it is supposed to produce waste that is not long-lived

so... development...

@McBacoon yeah, fusion is a hell lot better than fission.

Nuclear is the best way to power the entire world

@beyond_gravity I'm not sold on that part. I love nuclear, but I do recognize its dangers.

Everything has its dangers, but it all comes down to *risk-return spectrum*

Even renewables have their tradeoffs and risks

I did a what they call... a research? On wind power

In school a few years back

And windpower also has its negative effects

But they cant be compared to lets say... Chernobyl

Which was worse than 3-4 nuclear weapons...

You are spot on

A very interesting way Estonian goverment (my goverment) is actually fighting global warming is.... by repairing... bogs. Yes, you read that right. During the Soviet times, Russians harvested anything they could get their hands on.. and that included peat. Due to estonia being a very low country (low elevetion) it has quite alot of bogs and marshes. But when they harvested the peat, they needed to get the water out of there... so they built canals that directed the water away. Now, the Estonian goverment is every year destroying those canals and filling them up to prevent the water leaving the bog, for one ver simple reason. CO2. Namely, if the cold bog water goes away, the decomposition processes start, and that brings with it CO2 and all other dioxides. But when the water stays there, then nothing will happen, and we stay happy 😄

Just found that out today from TV

first it was about ozone holes, then it was about global warming, now it's about climate change smh

well, we tackled the ozone holes issue didnt we?

in this context, climate change= global warming

i remember back 10 years ago they were scaring us in schools with those ozone holes lmao i still get flashbacks

jk about flashbacks

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O yeah

ozone holes are a legit thing and they are now repairing

although they did find some sort of a new source of pollution (for these chemicals that destroy ozone) from somewhere in Kazakhstan

Yeah, ozone holes really existed like McBacoon stated. CFCs were banned in the 70s I believe. They were in things like spray paint. Also, global warming is climate change. That's the same issue.

but mah arctic foxes

Well, I've said before that my area is going to benefit from global warming so I don't mind that much. Just gotta make sure the warming doesn't go overboard. We'll have the issue fixed in time.

I am curious, do you think there is a way for these problems to self correct through the natural laws of the economics? Will there come a point where the social costs naturally turn into incentives for better, cleaner products?

And also, I have read from sources like the economist that as CO2 levels rise, the earth becomes more green. Plant growth increases. This helps to regulate the excess CO2.