(idk if that makes sense)õ

and they are already makin a reactor in France that uses uranium so that it doesent produce any waste

@McBacoon "they are already makin a reactor in France that uses uranium so it doesn't produce waste."

Did you word that wrong or do you just not have any idea what you are talking about?

aah, my bad.. I somehow remembered wrong

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITER

but its supposed to produce hundreds of times less waste and it is supposed to produce waste that is not long-lived

so... development...

@McBacoon yeah, fusion is a hell lot better than fission.

Nuclear is the best way to power the entire world

@beyond_gravity I'm not sold on that part. I love nuclear, but I do recognize its dangers.

Everything has its dangers, but it all comes down to *risk-return spectrum*

Even renewables have their tradeoffs and risks

I did a what they call... a research? On wind power

In school a few years back

And windpower also has its negative effects

But they cant be compared to lets say... Chernobyl

Which was worse than 3-4 nuclear weapons...

You are spot on

A very interesting way Estonian goverment (my goverment) is actually fighting global warming is.... by repairing... bogs. Yes, you read that right. During the Soviet times, Russians harvested anything they could get their hands on.. and that included peat. Due to estonia being a very low country (low elevetion) it has quite alot of bogs and marshes. But when they harvested the peat, they needed to get the water out of there... so they built canals that directed the water away. Now, the Estonian goverment is every year destroying those canals and filling them up to prevent the water leaving the bog, for one ver simple reason. CO2. Namely, if the cold bog water goes away, the decomposition processes start, and that brings with it CO2 and all other dioxides. But when the water stays there, then nothing will happen, and we stay happy 😄

Just found that out today from TV

first it was about ozone holes, then it was about global warming, now it's about climate change smh

well, we tackled the ozone holes issue didnt we?

in this context, climate change= global warming

i remember back 10 years ago they were scaring us in schools with those ozone holes lmao i still get flashbacks

jk about flashbacks

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O yeah

ozone holes are a legit thing and they are now repairing

although they did find some sort of a new source of pollution (for these chemicals that destroy ozone) from somewhere in Kazakhstan

Yeah, ozone holes really existed like McBacoon stated. CFCs were banned in the 70s I believe. They were in things like spray paint. Also, global warming is climate change. That's the same issue.

but mah arctic foxes

Well, I've said before that my area is going to benefit from global warming so I don't mind that much. Just gotta make sure the warming doesn't go overboard. We'll have the issue fixed in time.

I am curious, do you think there is a way for these problems to self correct through the natural laws of the economics? Will there come a point where the social costs naturally turn into incentives for better, cleaner products?

And also, I have read from sources like the economist that as CO2 levels rise, the earth becomes more green. Plant growth increases. This helps to regulate the excess CO2.

I've read that CO2 fertilizes the planet, so it makes sense the more CO2 the more plant growth. I think there could come a time where the environment was being harmed and the economy would continue to benefit energy sources that cause the problem, so the government would need to step in. The thing is that we are not close to that point. I don't mind some subsidies like the subsidies Tesla got, I just don't want to force inefficent energy and ban other forms of energy right now. I think having broud energy sources is a good thing.

CO2 does fertilize the planet. Thats why there were mega floura and fauna millions of years ago.

big plants = big herbivores = big carnivores

big meat big cheese

it's all coming together!

I remember in Cosmos they talk about how there were huge insects in the past because the oxygen density was super thick, and the way they breath is basically from the outside in. So the denser the oxygen the bigger they get. When the Oxygen gets less dense they have to get smaller or they wouldn't have enough Oxygen for their organs because the outside part of their body would've used it all up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBbvehbomrY