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2019-09-26 15:41:46 UTC

This wouldn't have happened if we had socialism

2019-09-26 15:41:50 UTC

Ok, is there any particular piece of case law you feel applies here?

2019-09-26 15:42:05 UTC

So anything that violates case law is unconstitutional

2019-09-26 15:42:29 UTC

@Trauma if we had socialism Pethโ€™s deep lack of knowledge would be a shared burden of society

2019-09-26 15:42:35 UTC

Ok, such as?

2019-09-26 15:42:46 UTC

And youโ€™re talking about the senate proceedings right now?

2019-09-26 15:42:51 UTC

After impeachment?

2019-09-26 15:43:31 UTC

Senate proceedings to determine whether or not the president is guilty

2019-09-26 15:43:48 UTC

Do you know that Clintonโ€™s trial was largely secret?

2019-09-26 15:43:52 UTC

Not in open court

2019-09-26 15:44:09 UTC

Whatever, enough cross examination Iโ€™ll just explain this to you

2019-09-26 15:44:11 UTC

A lot of trials are somewhat secret

2019-09-26 15:44:30 UTC

There isnโ€™t a requirement for it to be open

2019-09-26 15:44:34 UTC

Criminal trials in America are open, itโ€™s in the bill of rights, I recommend you read it.

2019-09-26 15:44:40 UTC

Not from case law

2019-09-26 15:44:46 UTC

From the constitution.

2019-09-26 15:44:52 UTC

Jury trials are different

2019-09-26 15:45:04 UTC

This is a jury trial.

2019-09-26 15:45:09 UTC

No itโ€™s not

2019-09-26 15:45:21 UTC

Yes it is, the senate is the acting jury

2019-09-26 15:45:24 UTC

Dude sincerely

2019-09-26 15:45:26 UTC

No

2019-09-26 15:45:31 UTC

Read the constitution

2019-09-26 15:45:37 UTC

It says it right there

2019-09-26 15:45:42 UTC

They arenโ€™t considered a jury

2019-09-26 15:45:51 UTC

So the reason there isnโ€™t judicial review over the trial in the senate

2019-09-26 15:45:59 UTC

Is case law different from constitutional law?

2019-09-26 15:46:10 UTC

Is that removing federal officials from office is in the purview of the senate

2019-09-26 15:46:12 UTC

Itโ€™s the same essentially

2019-09-26 15:46:26 UTC

So to give judicial review would be to take that power from the senate

2019-09-26 15:46:50 UTC

Because the senate power is how you remove federal justices (including the Supreme Court) from office

2019-09-26 15:46:55 UTC

There can be state case law though so not all case law is constitutional on a federal level

2019-09-26 15:47:07 UTC

So you canโ€™t have the Supreme Court oversee its own trial

2019-09-26 15:47:15 UTC

Lol holy fuck youโ€™re dumb

2019-09-26 15:47:34 UTC

No honey, state precedent doesnโ€™t apply to federal trials

2019-09-26 15:47:43 UTC

I was talking to him

2019-09-26 15:47:54 UTC

Heโ€™s like rocky, he keeps getting up lol

2019-09-26 15:47:56 UTC

I donโ€™t talk to liberals

2019-09-26 15:48:05 UTC

Lol

2019-09-26 15:48:45 UTC

<:facepalm:583246304151470090>

2019-09-26 15:48:48 UTC

Im sorry from interrupting but its kinda hard to keep up with the conversation

2019-09-26 15:48:59 UTC

You were talking to me a second ago when you were demonstrating extraordinary lack of understanding about the constitution and the law

2019-09-26 15:49:08 UTC

Federal case law is the established interpretation of constitutional law

2019-09-26 15:49:11 UTC

But thatโ€™s fine, good luck in your con law class lol

2019-09-26 15:49:16 UTC

And is binding to everyone

2019-09-26 15:49:22 UTC

No.

2019-09-26 15:49:30 UTC

But go on

2019-09-26 15:49:35 UTC

Yes it is

2019-09-26 15:50:08 UTC

Federal case law does not apply for state trials because the statutes are different- are we really getting into this

2019-09-26 15:50:13 UTC

Ok letโ€™s start lower down

2019-09-26 15:50:22 UTC

What about the American legal system DO you understand

2019-09-26 15:50:48 UTC

There is no single document that contains the case law. Itโ€™s literally just a collection of all of the highest federal rulings

2019-09-26 15:51:29 UTC

Largely Supreme Court cases and their current resolutions that are still on the books

2019-09-26 15:52:03 UTC

A ruling about the interpretation of a law by a federal appellate court on the books in Florida does not mean anything in Michigan

2019-09-26 15:52:31 UTC

And the vast majority of federal case law is not from the SCOTUS, itโ€™s from the other federal courts

2019-09-26 15:52:38 UTC

Is law your major?

2019-09-26 15:52:53 UTC

Federal appellate court decisions apply to their district

2019-09-26 15:53:04 UTC

You would have picked up more law if you had just dropped out and binged Law and Order

2019-09-26 15:53:17 UTC

And a Hulu subscription is less expensive than college tuition

2019-09-26 15:53:31 UTC

Even at whatever Nigerian online college youโ€™re going to

2019-09-26 15:53:47 UTC

The Supreme Court decisions apply to the entire country however

2019-09-26 15:53:47 UTC

This is too easy lol I have to go prep for a meeting

2019-09-26 15:54:02 UTC

Cosby tag in on this moron lol

2019-09-26 15:55:32 UTC

Yeah, college tuition is expensive

2019-09-26 15:55:35 UTC

The case law can vary in different districts

2019-09-26 15:56:02 UTC

Usually anything sufficiently controversial goes to the Supreme Court though

2019-09-26 15:56:25 UTC

Like controversial in that people say it violates their constitutional rights

2019-09-26 15:56:48 UTC

And the Supreme Court has the final interpretation on it

2019-09-26 15:58:15 UTC

And it becomes binding to all districts

2019-09-26 15:59:56 UTC

If the Supreme Court ignores a appellate court decision, it remains part of the case law for that district

2019-09-26 16:29:00 UTC

So for those who read it can they point me to where he took a bribe and used it for personal gain

2019-09-26 16:29:04 UTC

Iโ€™d love to see it

2019-09-26 16:35:08 UTC

Which scandal?

2019-09-26 16:51:22 UTC

That's the thing, there is no real bribe. It's all just misconstrued into being such

2019-09-26 16:54:31 UTC

In racketeering terms it is a very clear bribe

2019-09-26 16:54:38 UTC

โ€œWe want to buy weaponsโ€

2019-09-26 16:54:51 UTC

โ€œOk, though I have a favor to askโ€

2019-09-26 16:55:02 UTC

Then he asks him for a personal favor

2019-09-26 16:56:44 UTC

Lol he's obviously trying to extort kompramat on a political opponent

2019-09-26 16:57:34 UTC

I can't begin to imagine if Obama - or hell, any Democrat, tried to do the same thing

2019-09-26 16:57:45 UTC

The right is despicable, as always.

2019-09-26 16:59:14 UTC

Like when Hillary sold uranium?

2019-09-26 17:03:17 UTC

It was opinion that Dems are hypocrites

2019-09-26 17:03:31 UTC

But the news was a fact

2019-09-26 17:04:26 UTC

Even Biden threatened to stop the money if they didn't fire one of their guys

2019-09-26 17:04:41 UTC

Lol

2019-09-26 17:05:09 UTC

Letโ€™s go through the Hillary uranium accusation

2019-09-26 17:05:49 UTC

Lay out, if you will, what you believe Hillary Clinton did with regard to the sale of uranium

2019-09-26 17:08:17 UTC

It is pointless to resist liberal. Surrender now to your conservative masters.

2019-09-26 17:08:44 UTC

These biches wont

2019-09-26 17:09:39 UTC

Lol

2019-09-26 17:09:50 UTC

So to be clear, you donโ€™t know?

2019-09-26 17:30:30 UTC

Meanwhile somewhere in d.c.

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2019-09-26 17:49:32 UTC

What do you guys think of Yang?

2019-09-26 17:50:01 UTC

He's trying to build bridges

2019-09-26 17:50:05 UTC

And I appreciate that

2019-09-26 17:50:11 UTC

But UBI is a terrible idea

2019-09-26 17:50:21 UTC

Yes it has been tried on Alaska

2019-09-26 17:50:37 UTC

but most states aren't that rich in resources and oil

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