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2019-11-06 18:07:36 UTC

Iโ€™m talking about the media strategy

2019-11-06 18:07:41 UTC

I am but you are now jumping from topic to topic at first it was just the TV

2019-11-06 18:07:45 UTC

don't project

2019-11-06 18:07:49 UTC

We are talking about Putinโ€™s media strategy

2019-11-06 18:07:52 UTC

good me too but now you jumped to other things

2019-11-06 18:07:57 UTC

Yes, and if you followed the thread

2019-11-06 18:08:05 UTC

You would understand why we are where we are

2019-11-06 18:08:08 UTC

and I'm trying to type the answer but I keep having to store it in my clipboard to answer these in-between things you're saying

2019-11-06 18:08:11 UTC

New Tinashe album tonight at midnight!

2019-11-06 18:08:16 UTC

Then type your answer

2019-11-06 18:08:20 UTC

I am ffs

2019-11-06 18:08:52 UTC

Whether you believe that Putin offered material support to trump is immaterial to this discussion

2019-11-06 18:09:08 UTC

maybe I didn't explain it good enough

America is doing better than Russia
Russians ask "why is America doing better, can we do the same thing so we can be doing better?"
Putin doesn't want russians to have the sovereignty americans enjoy with free market, gun ownership etc etc etc

so what does he say "actually trump is super good for americans you guys, but you can't have the same things cause it would be bad for you?"

he has to say "actually this is bad for americans, so you don't really want it, in fact, we should endorse it so things get worse for them"

this makes their leader seem smarter and in more control over the situation

2019-11-06 18:09:55 UTC

Putin might be a patriot, but he's definitely an authoritarian

2019-11-06 18:10:17 UTC

If thy were true chlorophyll

2019-11-06 18:10:20 UTC

Sometimes that's evne more dangerous than a disinterested dictator who just wants money

2019-11-06 18:10:24 UTC

he can't be letting Russians having any fancy ideas of wanting the same things we americans enjoy, it has to be painted to them like a dark dystopia

2019-11-06 18:10:28 UTC

Why is Putin supporting trump on state TV

2019-11-06 18:10:33 UTC

The problem with your theory

2019-11-06 18:10:34 UTC

that's exactly what I just explained

2019-11-06 18:10:45 UTC

No, you didnโ€™t

2019-11-06 18:11:06 UTC

You are explaining why theyโ€™re saying Russia ought to be happy trump is in power

2019-11-06 18:11:12 UTC

what would it mean if he said "we need to get rid of Trump"
it would mean he sees Trump as a threat

2019-11-06 18:11:19 UTC

But since theyโ€™re offering actual support

2019-11-06 18:11:22 UTC

Literal help

2019-11-06 18:11:22 UTC

no please read carefully ๐Ÿ˜ญ

2019-11-06 18:11:25 UTC

this isn't that difficult

2019-11-06 18:11:32 UTC

No honey, you read carefully

2019-11-06 18:11:38 UTC

If Putin did not actually believe that

2019-11-06 18:11:39 UTC

you don't need to start that language now

2019-11-06 18:11:45 UTC

Putin can't talk about the cynical stuff, because AMericans might read it

2019-11-06 18:11:47 UTC

Then he is working against his own efforts

2019-11-06 18:11:51 UTC

Do you understand that?

2019-11-06 18:11:56 UTC

Putin is more worried about Americans reading that stuff than Russians

2019-11-06 18:12:07 UTC

like the Soybeans

2019-11-06 18:12:07 UTC

That is not accurate

2019-11-06 18:12:19 UTC

Russia is taking some of our Soybean export business

2019-11-06 18:12:26 UTC

Russia and Brazil

2019-11-06 18:12:45 UTC

same with Syria

2019-11-06 18:12:51 UTC

Putin is like the Kissinger of Russia

2019-11-06 18:12:59 UTC

Energy as the basis of geopolitical power

2019-11-06 18:13:09 UTC

if Putin said what Trump is doing is good for americans, it would work against his own efforts because his own people would want the same

if Putin said what Trump is doing is bad for americans his own people are less likely to want it

Putin can't do anything about whether or not Trump is president

Putin is saving face by psychologically manipulating people into thinking 1) trump is destroying america 2) we should support this because despite what we the potato peasants may think its making america worse

2019-11-06 18:13:40 UTC

Putin can do a lot to control if Trump is president or not if he has dirt on Trump

2019-11-06 18:13:49 UTC

he can always reveal "yea Trump actually is our asset"

2019-11-06 18:13:59 UTC

k mueller

2019-11-06 18:14:14 UTC

So when they say that Biden is trumpโ€™s most dangerous rival

2019-11-06 18:14:24 UTC

Why do they say that?

2019-11-06 18:14:37 UTC

They're making a feeble weak man who can barely keep his own words straight out to be an actual threat to him portraying him as extra weak

2019-11-06 18:14:50 UTC

Lol

2019-11-06 18:15:05 UTC

So what you forgot to fabricate in your theory here

2019-11-06 18:15:13 UTC

"Trump is so weak even this child-sniffer is a rival to him"

2019-11-06 18:15:22 UTC

Is the connection between Putinโ€™s propaganda and his actions

2019-11-06 18:15:36 UTC

So why is Putin supporting America then?

2019-11-06 18:15:36 UTC

that's why I asked you repeatedly if we're talking about the media or other things

2019-11-06 18:15:38 UTC

but you said I was diverting

2019-11-06 18:15:44 UTC

you're very very dishonest in how you behave

2019-11-06 18:15:57 UTC

No honey

2019-11-06 18:16:03 UTC

I asked repeatedly "what exactly for support"

2019-11-06 18:16:04 UTC

Biden is a bad guy, but he's part of the US darkside that is opposed to the Russians, at least with regard to Syria

2019-11-06 18:16:06 UTC

and you said media time and time again

2019-11-06 18:16:08 UTC

don't lie

2019-11-06 18:16:14 UTC

Yes, that was propaganda

2019-11-06 18:16:14 UTC

Syria is the lynchpin in putin's energy plans

2019-11-06 18:16:21 UTC

Try to focus here

2019-11-06 18:16:31 UTC

We were talking about Putinโ€™s propaganda strategy

2019-11-06 18:16:35 UTC

Which is just media

2019-11-06 18:16:36 UTC

I am focused and I'm catching you out on your inconsistencies, please be more honest

2019-11-06 18:16:39 UTC

Do you understand?

2019-11-06 18:16:41 UTC

which I spoke on

2019-11-06 18:16:43 UTC

in great detail

2019-11-06 18:16:50 UTC

Tulsi would indirectly help Putin, because she would pull out of syria

2019-11-06 18:16:51 UTC

Please answer the question honey, do you understand?

2019-11-06 18:16:55 UTC

so the Shiite pipe would go on

2019-11-06 18:17:06 UTC

stop this charade because I've already explained it to you

2019-11-06 18:17:14 UTC

Bernie maybe too

2019-11-06 18:17:16 UTC

Now I want you to focus really hard here

2019-11-06 18:17:25 UTC

stop this charade

2019-11-06 18:17:33 UTC

Only HIllary and Biden would hard core oppose Russia in Syria

2019-11-06 18:17:35 UTC

What youโ€™re saying, that Putin wants his people to like trump

2019-11-06 18:17:47 UTC

So they donโ€™t get jealous

2019-11-06 18:18:00 UTC

he wants his people to think that trump is doing bad things because there's nothing they can do about him being president either way

2019-11-06 18:18:27 UTC

That keeps Putin from moving against trump geopolitically

2019-11-06 18:18:28 UTC

they want to like him in the context of him being bad for a country better than them

2019-11-06 18:18:38 UTC

Because heโ€™s saying how great it is that heโ€™s in office

2019-11-06 18:18:52 UTC

So in your scenario (fantasy)

2019-11-06 18:18:53 UTC

how great *for Russia

2019-11-06 18:19:05 UTC

Putin is hobbling himself

2019-11-06 18:19:10 UTC

she translates some of putin's stuff when it's really provocative

2019-11-06 18:19:11 UTC

it's not exactly a niche opinion globally that orange man is bad

2019-11-06 18:19:16 UTC

Lol

2019-11-06 18:19:28 UTC

I agree, he is embarrassing to the US across the globe

2019-11-06 18:19:35 UTC

So hereโ€™s my question

2019-11-06 18:19:50 UTC

no, many people are envious of what we americans have but they'll never hear that it's a good thing from their media companies

2019-11-06 18:19:52 UTC

In his head, behind closed doors, does Putin actually want America to succeed or fail?

2019-11-06 18:19:56 UTC

Right

2019-11-06 18:20:01 UTC

probably wants america to fail

2019-11-06 18:20:07 UTC

Russian energy week, oct 2

2019-11-06 18:20:08 UTC

Ok

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