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probably wants more uranium from the clintons etc
So if Putin wants America to fail
AND thinks trump is good for America
In secret, behind closed doors
what can he even do about Trump being president
it's not like that's within his power at all
whatsoever
Honey
Focus
stop the charade
Then do you see how it makes it harder for him to work against him geopolitically
If he employs his propaganda machine in support of trump
he is still supporting the idea that Trump is bad for america
Right, and soliciting support for him
"see you don't want leaders like orange man, he makes US weak, so we should support him weakening his own country it makes us stronger"
Heโs saying โIโm close with trump, trump is great, because heโs hurting americaโ
not that difficult
So either heโs lying about the whole thing or heโs telling the truth about the whole thing
So the problem with your formulation
yes he's lying about trump being bad for us lmao
(like talking to a wall)
Is that it only makes sense if Putin SECRETLY wants America to SUCCEED
Do you understand?
So is that what you think?
no the reality is he can't do jack shit about whom we elect as president
so he has to play with what he's dealt
Ok first of all
Yes, obviously he can
we have orange man, he can't change that
That is why he hacked the election
Secondly
"hacked the election" oh lord did you drop your tin foil hat
it was a few facebook ads lmao
You can work closely with someone geopolitically whether or not you affect how theyโre president
Honey
Russia playing in our yard is nothing new
Are you still an election interference denier
did you see the study on how google search results affects public opinion?
Jesus
๐
Ok, so as we know Russia hacked the us election
all you have is this condescending charade it's getting kind of boring
Or as anyone who supports US law enforcement knows
kek you unironically believe Uranium One was a thing?
You keep using that word charade
Iโm not sure you know what it means
getting pedantic about theatrical language now
nice
(yawn)
Anyway, the entire US intelligence apparatus agrees that Russia hacked the US election
Ok, youโre just trolling I get it
Clap clap
Anyway
๐
I suppose it was a mistake to unblock a troll
they attempted to hack the voting machines but failed. There was a massive disinfo campaign and the DNC hack tho.
I didnโt realize there were still people denying election interference lol
I didn't deny it I even mentioned other election interferance
like search engine manipulation
Yeah, especially given how razor thin the margin is
Itโs pretty clear than Russia changed the outcome of the election
But I digress
Ok, then we agree that Putin can indeed influence who the American President is
But, as I tried to explain to you
That is his media strategy, whether or not you think it happened
So if Putin wanted to act against trump geopolitically
Heโs hobbling himself with his own media strategy
Which doesnโt make any sense
Unless he secretly wants America to succeed...
...or he actually believes trump is a moron
And you really have to put on your tinfoil hat to twist that one and think the Putin just had Americaโs best interests in mind lol
```Spencer has not disguised his fondness for Vladimir Putin's Russia, describing the country as the "sole white power in the world." In May, he led a smaller protest in Charlottesville, in which torch wielding white nationalists chanted "Russia is our friend."```
Putin is good, he reversed course on the KGB's old model of trying to stir up minorities
Uh oh impotent rage troll wall of text coming
"Oh no my private email server got hacked by the very people donating millions to my foundation they even payed my husband $500k for a speech what *ever* could I have done to keep state secrets safer than put them on a private email server"
There it is
oh more condescending nonsense how unpredictable
Heโs in Alex jonesโ newsroom
Lol ok
FYI, the Russians are smart enough to think two moves ahead and do that on purpose even if it worked out that way
I mean, you have like 3 conspiracy theories in that paragraph what do you want
look at how they handled Richard Sorge
masterstroke
Yeah, itโs interesting, Putinโs hack was a move of desperation
He really hit the jackpot
Trump is extraordinarily easy to manipulate though
k a few internet trolls changed the outcome of the election and I'm peddling conspiracy theories ๐
So itโs not the whole Manchuria candidate thing
Trump would never get a security clearance the usual way
โA few internet trollsโ
nor his kids, etc
too much attack surface
A massive multi million dollar hacking and misinformation campaign?
"Trump is easy to manipulate"
he literally tweets and everyone pays attention to it while he changes asylum laws
Yes.
Did you think that proved your point?
Remember the margin in the election was .3% in Michigan, 1.2% in PA
So did a massive misinformation campaign, and leaked emails convince 1/100 people to stay home or try trump?
Yeah, absolutely.
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