Message from @Zandu

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2019-11-06 18:07:57 UTC  

Yes, and if you followed the thread

2019-11-06 18:08:05 UTC  

You would understand why we are where we are

2019-11-06 18:08:08 UTC  

and I'm trying to type the answer but I keep having to store it in my clipboard to answer these in-between things you're saying

2019-11-06 18:08:11 UTC  

New Tinashe album tonight at midnight!

2019-11-06 18:08:16 UTC  

Then type your answer

2019-11-06 18:08:20 UTC  

I am ffs

2019-11-06 18:08:52 UTC  

Whether you believe that Putin offered material support to trump is immaterial to this discussion

2019-11-06 18:09:08 UTC  

maybe I didn't explain it good enough

America is doing better than Russia
Russians ask "why is America doing better, can we do the same thing so we can be doing better?"
Putin doesn't want russians to have the sovereignty americans enjoy with free market, gun ownership etc etc etc

so what does he say "actually trump is super good for americans you guys, but you can't have the same things cause it would be bad for you?"

he has to say "actually this is bad for americans, so you don't really want it, in fact, we should endorse it so things get worse for them"

this makes their leader seem smarter and in more control over the situation

2019-11-06 18:09:55 UTC  

Putin might be a patriot, but he's definitely an authoritarian

2019-11-06 18:10:17 UTC  

If thy were true chlorophyll

2019-11-06 18:10:20 UTC  

Sometimes that's evne more dangerous than a disinterested dictator who just wants money

2019-11-06 18:10:24 UTC  

he can't be letting Russians having any fancy ideas of wanting the same things we americans enjoy, it has to be painted to them like a dark dystopia

2019-11-06 18:10:28 UTC  

Why is Putin supporting trump on state TV

2019-11-06 18:10:33 UTC  

The problem with your theory

2019-11-06 18:10:34 UTC  

that's exactly what I just explained

2019-11-06 18:10:45 UTC  

No, you didn’t

2019-11-06 18:11:06 UTC  

You are explaining why they’re saying Russia ought to be happy trump is in power

2019-11-06 18:11:12 UTC  

what would it mean if he said "we need to get rid of Trump"
it would mean he sees Trump as a threat

2019-11-06 18:11:19 UTC  

But since they’re offering actual support

2019-11-06 18:11:22 UTC  

Literal help

2019-11-06 18:11:22 UTC  

no please read carefully 😭

2019-11-06 18:11:25 UTC  

this isn't that difficult

2019-11-06 18:11:32 UTC  

No honey, you read carefully

2019-11-06 18:11:38 UTC  

If Putin did not actually believe that

2019-11-06 18:11:39 UTC  

you don't need to start that language now

2019-11-06 18:11:45 UTC  

Putin can't talk about the cynical stuff, because AMericans might read it

2019-11-06 18:11:47 UTC  

Then he is working against his own efforts

2019-11-06 18:11:51 UTC  

Do you understand that?

2019-11-06 18:11:56 UTC  

Putin is more worried about Americans reading that stuff than Russians

2019-11-06 18:12:07 UTC  

like the Soybeans

2019-11-06 18:12:07 UTC  

That is not accurate

2019-11-06 18:12:19 UTC  

Russia is taking some of our Soybean export business

2019-11-06 18:12:26 UTC  

Russia and Brazil

2019-11-06 18:12:45 UTC  

same with Syria

2019-11-06 18:12:51 UTC  

Putin is like the Kissinger of Russia

2019-11-06 18:12:59 UTC  

Energy as the basis of geopolitical power

2019-11-06 18:13:09 UTC  

if Putin said what Trump is doing is good for americans, it would work against his own efforts because his own people would want the same

if Putin said what Trump is doing is bad for americans his own people are less likely to want it

Putin can't do anything about whether or not Trump is president

Putin is saving face by psychologically manipulating people into thinking 1) trump is destroying america 2) we should support this because despite what we the potato peasants may think its making america worse

2019-11-06 18:13:40 UTC  

Putin can do a lot to control if Trump is president or not if he has dirt on Trump

2019-11-06 18:13:49 UTC  

he can always reveal "yea Trump actually is our asset"

2019-11-06 18:13:59 UTC  

k mueller

2019-11-06 18:14:14 UTC  

So when they say that Biden is trump’s most dangerous rival