I don't think Trump has been gaining very much

i used to be more democratic

but i switched

well of course you don't see it

i could

i see it in the small towns and states

I mean, by what metric?

He has, for one minority support is noticeably higher this time around

You see it...

But the polls don't show it

to be honest, both parties are pretty crap

^^^^^^^^^^

theres really no meaning with the both of them

https://spectator.org/why-trumps-approval-ratings-are-up-among-minorities/

GG @Cobra Commander, you just advanced to level 5!

Polls are flawed, but they can show relationships - like downwards trends

^^^^^^^^

polls are flawed

we all remember the 2016 election

aight if we're done imma nod off

i gotta get up early for work

and its currently 1 for me

ironically DNC special delegates are not democratically elected

Ok, sweet dreams about Trump's orange body glistening in the sun (or whatever it is you folks dream about)

The DNC delegates process is fubar

i actually try to lucid dream

I have tried and failed

most of them are me on vacations in socialists countries

Well, intentionally I have failed...have had some interesting experiences unintentionally

then them failing and me being stuck there

yeah, and because they vote so unison; 2020 election is going to basically be oranges vs bidens

lmao

also who the fuck is andrew yang

Except the dems have a very nasty habit of throwing their votes away too

Such as voting for Yang

or writing in some other junk

i keep seeing him around here and there

ill look into it tomorrow

I'm tired as shit

@Cobra Commander The link you posted about minority voters pulls from a survey that says "It’s way too soon to say whether this is a temporary blip on the radar or whether Trump is on to something. We’ll be watching."

I actually like Yang and Tulsi

But I suppose that's for most polls

Yeah I know

All if it is too early to tell, that goes without saying

In any case, maybe he's getting more support in certain places - something to watch out for

well i mean your first article stated that it wasn't sure either but you counted it as evidence

why am i hurting myself

i need sleep

Lol

Go to sleep big guy

We can duke it out later

aight man

it was fun ngl

have a good night or moring

morning

You too

Yang has some good stuff @Cobra Commander

good day

On the one hand I think it's kind of a waste of time to have all these candidates. But on the other hand, they bring national attention to various issues

As long as when the time comes to choose between Creepy/Sleepy/Grabby Biden and Crazy Bernie, they don't throw their vote in for someone else (thereby sealing a really unfortunate and unwanted Biden VS Trump battle)

Then again, like 3v6en8 said too, the DNC process is pretty broken anyways

So individual voters don't really mean all that much when it comes to picking a democratic nominee ughhh

What’s wrong with the DNC process?

Btw, you can’t say that trump’s approval rating with minorities is higher this time around than 2016, because he didn’t have an approval rating in 2016

the DNC has a weird voting system; the have delegates representing a state and superdelegates

delegates are suppose to vote with their state while superdelegates can do what ever they want

delegates are elected but superdelegates are not

thats where the sus things happen with party elections

I dont think trump really needs votes from minorities; he lost his mojo with maga so the elections going to be hard

and a lot of people are jumping onto the band wagon on who hates trump the most; thats the new election process

Ok so- firstly most superdelegates are elected

They also are barred from voting on the first ballot, which means they’re essentially tiebreakers now

Second- the parties are not lower-case-d democratic institutions

The super delegates are the party leaders, they are just deciding who they want to nominate

Only 20 (2.7%) of the superdelegates are not elected

And those are all former elected officials, like Obama, Clinton and Carter are among those 20

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdelegate

is it only 20?

that doesnt seem that much

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Democratic_Party_superdelegates,_2016

Yeah, it’s not that much

i guess most super delegates are elected in some way

still, superdelegates fucked bernie 15% of the nomination

@Platinum Spark I didn't mention anything about approval ratings, I said that he's gaining more minority support.

Hopefully that clears up my statement

@Cobra Commander The article you quoted is about approval ratings

https://spectator.org/why-trumps-approval-ratings-are-up-among-minorities/

The author is suggesting that approval rating and vote total are synonymous- we know that they are not

Ok time to debate up in this bitch

In fact, if they were, trump would be looking at a catastrophic map in 2020, showing him negative in OH, WI, MI, PA, FL, NC, AZ & TX

GG @Platinum Spark, you just advanced to level 12!

IN too

Trump 2020

That's happening

jschlatt2020

You can thank the squad for that

You can 😔

The midwest has constantly been lied to

And it's so cringe to see the candidates pretend to care about them

Ok, so how is he going to make up all the ground he’s lost in PA?