well, both sides were fucked in the head. Mainland RoC before PRC was a bunch of goons who didnt do anything outside of major cities

left the people in the styx to rot

stix*

if anyone is interested in Chinese history there is a cool uni lecture on podcast addict broken up into 8 episodes that go from dynastic china to modern day china which gives a bit of insight, is interesting

its called 'introduction to china' - latrobe uni

i live near a latrobe university lol

in melbourne?

if so it is the same latrobe uni, some lecturer uploaded his stuff as a podcast, is a good course it seems

yeah down plenty road

nice man i used to live in melb, now bris

I love China YouTubers. With the exception of cmilk and Winston, everyone's channel is only up for a short time talking about how much they love China, then they do a video "why Im leaving China "

It's always the same story.

The honeymoon stage ends and they finally see China for it's become - unfortunately.

Don't get me wrong, there's some stuff I love about China that we could never do in USA because we lack cheap and massive labor force.

you really got to be Chinese to understand china

@kaetaa why dont you like cmilk and winston?

He didn't say that, he said they're the only two who haven't left

I like cmilk. Winston seems a bit pretentious to me lately.

When I started watching cmilk he had 10k subs. Now he's at 100k. He's blowing up faster than Winston , will probably surpass him eventually

btw, chinas standard for video output is STILL VGA. You can find it on every device still (video cards, monitors, tvs, laptops etc)

they have hdmi and dp and all that, of course, but they still use VGA the most.

all about that dvi boi

there was a dude called lowai (SP?) who ran a channel about living in china, being married to a girl from there

it was pretty interesting to watch

he talked about the disparity between the asian countries, mainly how china and japan have it near impossible ever to be a citizen through marriage

or the amount of paperwork needed for him to even work

Unlike Taiwan or Hong Kong, where if you get married, its a long afternoon at a city building to become a resident alien

yeah youre thinking of Laowhy86

aka Cmilk

I follow cmilk religiously. He's a cool guy and like super nice about everything. I've learned a good bit from his channel.

I like winston too but I feel like his videos are a bit long and full of him talking about things that aren't directly to the point but he's still cool and informative.

>tfw cmilk senpai liked your joke in his stream

For whatever reason China never relaxed its immigration policy

I remember my family telling how they lived with a shitload of indonesian chinese refugees in the guangzhou countryside

refugees only in the sense that they were never granted citizenship

those are illegal immigrants

i'd doubt that mattered in the 1950's-1960's

Not like illegal immigration changed much then and now

On my way to shenzhen and then Hong Kong for some MRI stuff there

Whoa

I just came back from HK and in shenzhen now

I'm at the ferry port

still got an hour before my ferry

@plasticsword How good are the public transport in shenzhen?

good but securityis bullshit

well mtr is good

since i think there's only one company in the world that does the metro

for everywhere

buses are annoying since you need to tell the person where you stop

You ever speak shitty Japanese just to troll the Chinas?

tfw say I don't speak mandarin in mandarin and they still try to talk to me

pls go

are you chink?

yes butim transwhite

tfw this chink thought I was staff at a chink store once and spoke to me in mandarin

Can't escape your chink blood

I'm in Hong Kong. City is so great

My 2nd time here

But I'm not on vacation so my hotel room is Ike 6m2 maybe

It's insane how small it is

can walk across hongkong in 1 day

well maybe not to the islands

but maybe from tsim sha tsui to lok ma chau

taiwan metro is god tier

agreed

so fucking clean

so quiet

plus, you can use your easycards at 7-11

my wife is already complaining she is coming back to england

we both hate it here

but eh

the uk metro is shit

the food is shit

the only thing they got going for them is the beer and the pub culture

besides that, nuke it form orbit

I miss pubs

I miss whetherspoons

2 meals for 6 squids

fucking bargain

I'm going to Taiwan in October, any big suggestions ?

Taiwan is traversable in a day, it's a small island

with high speed rail

I'll be there for like 4 days.

there's shit to do there

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/05/01/arizona-woman-discovers-note-from-chinese-prisoner-in-purse-bought-at-walmart.html

Best deepnet chink chan?

Are there any?

onions

Good question

I'm pretty sure 8chan has an onion mirror

Just search 'chan' on ahmia

8chan mirror sucks 4chan onion site is still better

but they are both shit

I'm going to buy an engagement ring in HK any suggestions

diamond encrusted fidget ring

Xiaomi meme ring

buy a jade ring

Met an Indian guy who's lived in HK for 37 years

Says hk used to be so comfortable and affordable