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2018-09-03 08:22:41 UTC

Not meant for direct combat

2018-09-03 08:23:29 UTC

Just like Metal Gear as an example

2018-09-03 08:24:56 UTC

Its abilty to get in more areas makes it versatile for certain purposes

2018-09-03 08:25:55 UTC

Especially transport purposes

2018-09-03 19:26:16 UTC

Front Mission would probably be the most realistic

2018-09-03 19:26:28 UTC

But it's probably never gonna happen

2018-09-03 19:26:32 UTC

Powered armor, perhaps

2018-09-03 19:27:00 UTC

You misspelled Diaoyu by the way

2018-09-03 19:27:39 UTC

Also of note is that Japan is not the bastion of conservative tradition that people think it is.

2018-09-03 19:28:07 UTC

There are gays, there is not much Christianity, there are Muslims also

2018-09-03 19:28:23 UTC

Islam is not banned there no matter what any boomer meme says

2018-09-03 19:31:04 UTC

The SDF do not have robots, they are not that great and are not even a military force anyway

2018-09-03 19:31:21 UTC

They also have no legal claim to the Diaoyu Islands

2018-09-03 19:34:40 UTC

I donโ€™t think of it as a bastion of conservative tradition. I do think of it as a generally highly intelligent, homogenous society with strong immigration laws and largely uncorrupted by abrahamic religion. Islam is not banned there in legal terms but certainly highly ostracized

2018-09-03 19:34:51 UTC

Their economy is going downhill, the government is very rigid and strict, and the suicide rate is incredibly high. The family of those people get fines

2018-09-03 19:35:05 UTC

Japanese women like black men

2018-09-03 19:42:03 UTC

Japan doesn't have the open borders Europe does but to say they have extremely strict immigration isn't entirely true. It's more than China and the Philippines, which may not give citizenship but are very open to SKILLED foreign workers.

2018-09-03 19:42:58 UTC

Fair enough, Iโ€™m so used to u.s. immigration laws that everything else seems strict by comparison

2018-09-03 19:43:15 UTC

Except Europe of course...God help them

2018-09-03 19:43:33 UTC

Immigration to the US isn't necessarily hard, but it ain't cheap either

2018-09-03 19:44:14 UTC

Europe is basically dead

2018-09-03 19:44:17 UTC

Probably a prohibitive factor for a lot of undesirables south, and in the Dark Continent

2018-09-03 19:44:18 UTC

Still no point in hating on the Japanese imo, especially as the U.S. becomes increasingly more brown and degenerate.

2018-09-03 19:44:35 UTC

Nah I don't hate them

2018-09-03 19:44:53 UTC

Can't say enough praise about their work ethic

2018-09-03 19:45:11 UTC

And despite their culture, they're about as creative and inventive as Americans

2018-09-03 19:45:54 UTC

We definitely lifted them out of the dark ages by nuking them and teaching them capitalism

2018-09-03 19:47:14 UTC

Ironically in many ways they are more westernized than they are. Baseball is the major sport there aside from kickball, meanwhile in America everyone chimps out over african handball and the National Felons League

2018-09-03 19:52:42 UTC

Probably one of those things where something foreign is more appealing and novel

2018-09-03 19:53:10 UTC

We don't care about US dollars but if we get some Chinese or NK money in our hands it looks neat, alien etc

2018-09-03 22:42:12 UTC

I mean they only allowed 27 refugees in or so

2018-09-03 22:42:44 UTC

And they dont have illegal immigration like we do

2018-09-03 22:43:31 UTC

Overall moving towards Japan ideals is way better than what ever the left wants.

2018-09-04 00:43:10 UTC

Unless you want to defend yourself. Then not so much, with extremely strict gun control

2018-09-04 00:44:54 UTC

FAR worse than Britain.

2018-09-04 02:20:58 UTC

What is their violent crime rate though?

2018-09-04 03:28:39 UTC

There is zero correlation between the two. Communist countries tend to be quite safe too.

2018-09-04 03:30:06 UTC

Banning guns to save some people while others suffer for it is no different than starving part of your population to death in order to feed the others. Communism.

2018-09-04 04:08:41 UTC

The articile pretty comically bad because it implies that the "main" reason why shaving at home was encouraged was because of racism, even though it mentioned, quite clearly, that there were major public health concerns about going to a barber due to the spread of diseases, which can be spread if there was an accident such as a minor cut.

https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/01/the-racially-fraught-history-of-the-american-beard/283180/

2018-09-04 04:13:01 UTC

Also, their arguments don't completely line-up because, during the time, there was a general fear of Barbers, regardless of whether they were black or white. They completely ommitted mentioning Sweeney Todd, which probably also fed into the fear of barbers even more so than anything else, since it became a major classic piece of literature and an urban legend.

2018-09-04 05:29:16 UTC

Beards are badass. They should be allowed in the army and anyone who says it breaks the gas mask seal is going to Hell for lying.

2018-09-04 06:28:00 UTC

I dont believe in hell I'll see you in the void

2018-09-04 06:30:34 UTC

Also it matters for japan because the laws on personal weapons have restricted them probably the longest of any civilized nation period. Swords were outlawed before firearms were really in common use. Japan is just in a really weird position across the board.

2018-09-04 06:36:32 UTC

The Army masks dont seal perfectly with beards.

2018-09-04 06:42:50 UTC

I will also say that the beards also pose other problems like being exposed and needing to be cleaned or making it easier to break the seal accidently.

2018-09-04 11:36:04 UTC

PO-LEASE THAT MOOO-STASH.

2018-09-04 12:15:49 UTC

Cum catcher?

2018-09-04 17:49:11 UTC

It's a lie, invented by NCOs who meanwhile are fucking their female soldiers

2018-09-04 17:49:48 UTC

The armies of continental Europe almost always allow beards. France, Germany, Denmark, Sweden etc.

2018-09-04 17:50:27 UTC

I went to college with a Danish guy who is now serving in the Life Guards. Ironically the only unit of the Danish Army that doesn't allow beards

2018-09-04 17:51:21 UTC

It's been demonstrated to American soldiers how the beard has to be cut

2018-09-04 17:51:27 UTC

Keep the neck clear

2018-09-04 17:52:00 UTC

It's not exposed in a chemical attack any more than other body parts

2018-09-04 17:53:56 UTC

The Navy and Coast Guard up until the 80s allowed beards, and they are still allowed on subs. I live in a sub town and see bearded sailors from the US and UK every day

2018-09-04 17:54:45 UTC

Closest major city's fire department allows beards also

2018-09-04 17:56:36 UTC

We have promasks at the CSU and we have beards.

2018-09-04 17:57:41 UTC

We train with SRT from our dept, local agencies, we've even worked with military and feds on occasion. We've gassed shoot houses and then went inside with masks. Works just fine

2018-09-04 17:58:21 UTC

It's simply bullshit from higher ranking people who think that the army is always right, that everything they do has meaning and purpose

2018-09-04 19:14:49 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/444628746788536330/486615135922683924/image0.jpg

2018-09-04 19:16:00 UTC

I would love to see those damn Yankees try to take this monument down.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/444628746788536330/486615434716643338/image0.jpg

2018-09-04 19:29:16 UTC

Not all Yankees hate the monuments m8

2018-09-04 19:34:49 UTC

But all people who hate monuments are Yankees.

2018-09-04 20:46:39 UTC

Yankees have no history. That's why their mad at everyone else's glorious history

2018-09-04 20:57:11 UTC

^Truth.

2018-09-04 21:25:36 UTC

Should I do an entire deconstruction of the arguments for removing the Confederate Monuments?

2018-09-04 21:44:57 UTC

Yes

2018-09-04 21:46:20 UTC

Nah there's southern trash who hate them too

2018-09-04 21:46:55 UTC

You should do an entire deconstruction of the arguments for removing the Confederate Monuments

2018-09-04 21:49:27 UTC

Except CS gas is different from all the other stuff masks are used against.

2018-09-04 21:51:23 UTC

Well, let me go over the lowest hanging fruit out of them all first.

โ€œThe Confederacy was fighting for White Supremacyโ€ is one of the most obvious arguments used against them. The problem with this argument is that, during the time, both sides would be what we would define as โ€œwhite supremacists.โ€ The north believed Blacks were just as inferior as southerners believed them to be. The North also was extremely discriminatory to East Asians (Chinese), Italians, and Irishmen due to being mainly WASPs and supporting white, Anglo-Saxon Protestant culture over other cultures. They were, by that category, also โ€œwhite supremacistsโ€ by definition.

2018-09-04 21:51:27 UTC

@TheKekscernist easy. John Graves Simcoe has statues in Canada.

2018-09-04 21:51:34 UTC

What does gas have to do with this?

2018-09-04 21:51:57 UTC

It's in the name of one of my favorite songs?

2018-09-04 21:52:06 UTC

I mean

2018-09-04 21:52:12 UTC

gas is basically the solution to most things now

2018-09-04 21:52:19 UTC

it's replacing bullets

2018-09-04 21:54:38 UTC

Rags is on a gas mask vs Beard stint

2018-09-04 21:55:18 UTC

Another argument is the quite often the comparison of the Confederacy and Confederate veterans and Confederate Leaders to Nazis or any type of dictatorship. This is misleading because the South was not a dictatorship nor an ideological movement, but a regional, political movement that came about due to a fundamental disagreement with the Federal Government over how the institution of slavery should be handled. In other words, Confederates are not equivalent to Nazis. They are more closely related to something like the IRA or the Scottish Independence movement under William Wallace rather than an ideological movement like the Nazi regime or the Soviet Union.

2018-09-04 21:55:24 UTC

He believes that the Army not allowing beards is a conspiracy when he has experience with people using masks and beards.

2018-09-04 21:55:38 UTC

But there is more to it than cs gas

2018-09-04 21:55:42 UTC

Also, no one cares about beards right now.

2018-09-04 21:55:51 UTC

Rags does

2018-09-04 21:56:14 UTC

And you posted the article that started it so apparently you care a little.

2018-09-04 21:56:47 UTC

I posted the article that was made into a meme for people to read.

2018-09-04 21:57:20 UTC

@Deleted User Hard pill to swallow:
Sometimes the big green weenie is right
No beards and gas masks
FIGHT ME

2018-09-04 21:59:27 UTC

But, anyways, those are two arguments I hear quite often. Thereโ€™s a good number of other arguments, which, when applied any level of scrutiny, simply fall apart.

2018-09-04 22:05:28 UTC

Thing is though, a mask creating a better seal against bare skin is common sense.

2018-09-04 22:06:34 UTC

It might be "good enough" with a beard but is that really something you would accept in a CBRNE environment?

2018-09-04 22:09:34 UTC

Like what would create a better seal suction cup on glass or carpet?

2018-09-04 22:09:59 UTC

Another argument I hear all the time from the groups who want the monuments removed is the old "you lost, get over it" and or the variation that goes "the statues are just participation trophies."

The problem with this general line of argument is that it can be applied to other conflicts and be just as valid. You can argue that we should remove the Vietnam War Memorial because the US lost and that it's just a "participation trophy." Similarly, you could argue the Scottish should remove statues of William Wallace because he lost and they should "get over it." Same thing with a statue of Boudica in England, same thing with monuments to German dead of the Great War, and the same argument can be applied to any and all monuments or memorials, meaning that all of them can be removed because they are honoring the "losing side."

2018-09-04 22:11:18 UTC

US won Vietnam my dude

2018-09-04 22:11:29 UTC

No, we didn't.

2018-09-04 22:11:37 UTC

They surrendered

2018-09-04 22:11:43 UTC

After we left

2018-09-04 22:11:53 UTC

The dems refused to support the south

2018-09-04 22:12:00 UTC

And it got taken

2018-09-04 22:12:25 UTC

Basically Vietnam 2 happened and we never showed up

2018-09-04 22:12:34 UTC

Or even lent support

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