Message from @Little Boots

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2018-09-04 21:51:34 UTC  

What does gas have to do with this?

2018-09-04 21:51:57 UTC  

It's in the name of one of my favorite songs?

2018-09-04 21:52:06 UTC  

I mean

2018-09-04 21:52:12 UTC  

gas is basically the solution to most things now

2018-09-04 21:52:19 UTC  

it's replacing bullets

2018-09-04 21:54:38 UTC  

Rags is on a gas mask vs Beard stint

2018-09-04 21:55:18 UTC  

Another argument is the quite often the comparison of the Confederacy and Confederate veterans and Confederate Leaders to Nazis or any type of dictatorship. This is misleading because the South was not a dictatorship nor an ideological movement, but a regional, political movement that came about due to a fundamental disagreement with the Federal Government over how the institution of slavery should be handled. In other words, Confederates are not equivalent to Nazis. They are more closely related to something like the IRA or the Scottish Independence movement under William Wallace rather than an ideological movement like the Nazi regime or the Soviet Union.

2018-09-04 21:55:24 UTC  

He believes that the Army not allowing beards is a conspiracy when he has experience with people using masks and beards.

2018-09-04 21:55:38 UTC  

But there is more to it than cs gas

2018-09-04 21:55:42 UTC  

Also, no one cares about beards right now.

2018-09-04 21:55:51 UTC  

Rags does

2018-09-04 21:56:14 UTC  

And you posted the article that started it so apparently you care a little.

2018-09-04 21:56:47 UTC  

I posted the article that was made into a meme for people to read.

2018-09-04 21:57:20 UTC  

@Deleted User Hard pill to swallow:
Sometimes the big green weenie is right
No beards and gas masks
FIGHT ME

2018-09-04 21:59:27 UTC  

But, anyways, those are two arguments I hear quite often. There’s a good number of other arguments, which, when applied any level of scrutiny, simply fall apart.

2018-09-04 22:05:28 UTC  

Thing is though, a mask creating a better seal against bare skin is common sense.

2018-09-04 22:06:34 UTC  

It might be "good enough" with a beard but is that really something you would accept in a CBRNE environment?

2018-09-04 22:09:34 UTC  

Like what would create a better seal suction cup on glass or carpet?

2018-09-04 22:09:59 UTC  

Another argument I hear all the time from the groups who want the monuments removed is the old "you lost, get over it" and or the variation that goes "the statues are just participation trophies."

The problem with this general line of argument is that it can be applied to other conflicts and be just as valid. You can argue that we should remove the Vietnam War Memorial because the US lost and that it's just a "participation trophy." Similarly, you could argue the Scottish should remove statues of William Wallace because he lost and they should "get over it." Same thing with a statue of Boudica in England, same thing with monuments to German dead of the Great War, and the same argument can be applied to any and all monuments or memorials, meaning that all of them can be removed because they are honoring the "losing side."

2018-09-04 22:11:18 UTC  

US won Vietnam my dude

2018-09-04 22:11:29 UTC  

No, we didn't.

2018-09-04 22:11:37 UTC  

They surrendered

2018-09-04 22:11:43 UTC  

After we left

2018-09-04 22:11:53 UTC  

The dems refused to support the south

2018-09-04 22:12:00 UTC  

And it got taken

2018-09-04 22:12:25 UTC  

Basically Vietnam 2 happened and we never showed up

2018-09-04 22:12:34 UTC  

Or even lent support

2018-09-04 22:12:40 UTC  

It was fought to a truce. No one actually won the war until, of course, the North Vietnamese initiated their attack and crushed the South Vietnamese.

2018-09-04 22:12:52 UTC  

So, it was a defeat.

2018-09-04 22:13:03 UTC  

We werent even there

2018-09-04 22:13:07 UTC  

So no its not

2018-09-04 22:13:26 UTC  

Whereas Korea is... or was... "ongiong" since the 1950's until it was officially ended under Trump's Administration.

2018-09-04 22:13:32 UTC  

Its like saying we lost desert storm

2018-09-04 22:13:55 UTC  

Did we actually end korea?

2018-09-04 22:14:01 UTC  

I never saw that

2018-09-04 22:14:24 UTC  

Yeah. Kim Jong Un signed the papers or whatever.

2018-09-04 22:14:51 UTC  

In any case they are tearing down the civil war memorials to make room for the Civil war 2 memorials

2018-09-04 22:14:52 UTC  

It was memed all over the place when it happened.

2018-09-04 22:15:10 UTC  

I guess it went over my head

2018-09-04 22:15:24 UTC  

So that we can Robert E. Lee 2: Rebel Yell Boogaloo.

2018-09-04 22:15:24 UTC  

Probably 🤷🏼‍♂️